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    Jason Brown's Future Prospects

    Jason Brown could only deliver a 2A (1 in the SP and 2 in the LP) at Junior Worlds. Had all three been 3A's, he could have run Han Yan pretty close for the gold medal. Instead, he finished 7.55 points behind Han. The difference between a triple and double axel is 5.20 in base value. Multiplied 3 times, and that amounts to 15.60. As Jason was only 7.55 points behind Han, for me the lack a triple axel has cost Jason the title. Given this, I think that if Jason is to remain competitive, he needs the triple axel in place by next season. The competition will not be standing still. They will working on upgrading their technical content, whereas Jason is already playing catch up. Jason cannot therefore afford to let another season go by without the triple axel.

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    Didn't Jason mention he will be working on the 3A by next season
    I agree though if he had the 3A even without the quad he would have easily beaten Han Yan and Farris
    Farris only did 3A in LP but Brown was still scored more conveniently without the 3A. without a doubt Brown has a bright future hopefully he gets them soon,
    I would even say he is miles ahead of Farris.

    Farris has the jumps but lacks appeal but with Brown he is an all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Didn't Jason mention he will be working on the 3A by next season
    I agree though if he had the 3A even without the quad he would have easily beaten Han Yan and Farris
    Farris only did 3A in LP but Brown was still scored more conveniently without the 3A. without a doubt Brown has a bright future hopefully he gets them soon,
    I would even say he is miles ahead of Farris.

    Farris has the jumps but lacks appeal but with Brown he is an all around.
    It's laughable that so many people are on Brown's bandwagon. Without a 3A, he's going nowhere at senior level.

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    because Brown has the best long term potential and all around skater
    what does Farris have to offer other than jumps and balletic spins ?

    don't worry he will have his 3A soon
    by then he will be a force to be reckon with.

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    Easily beaten Yan? Only with such best case scenario of 3 hypothetical and perfect 3As from Brown without dragging down the rest of his jumps, stamina, and program, vs an imperfect Yan who somehow messed up a simple jumping pass. Brwon's PCS is just .80 over Yan's in the LP which Yan could easily make up with a better choreographed program which he is going to get. Yan already has a dependable 4T at 15, what is to say how far he will go technically from here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Didn't Jason mention he will be working on the 3A by next season
    Yes, in this Phil Hersh article, it says that Brown is working on it and hopeful of having it ready by next season. Hope he is right, because without it he will struggle.

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    Let us look at the big picture. He is 17 and his skating skills, artistry, and musicality are far above many seniors who have the big jumps. Those are things that are more difficult to teach. He just has it. Watching videos of him does not give justice to what you see in person. He moves the audience and is so special to watch. The 3A will come. Congratulations to Joshua and Jason. Go USA!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
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    don't worry he will have his 3A soon
    by then he will be a force to be reckon with.
    He's been practicing 3A for quite a while but still is unable to land one even in practice.

    Not everybody can do 3A. He may get this jump in the future or he may never get it. Unless he has one, all the 'ifs' are just a moot point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyskate View Post
    Let us look at the big picture. He is 17 and his skating skills, artistry, and musicality are far above many seniors who have the big jumps. Those are things that are more difficult to teach. He just has it. Watching videos of him does not give justice to what you see in person. He moves the audience and is so special to watch. The 3A will come. Congratulations to Joshua and Jason. Go USA!!
    THIS. Jason Brown is the whole package !

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyskate View Post
    Those are things that are more difficult to teach. He just has it. !!
    Well, why can't Jason do 'simpler' things such as '3a' if these jumps are really 'easier' to teach according to you?
    The truth is that big jumps are not easy. Some skaters have the talent to do big jumps, some are more 'artistic' just like Brown. All of the skaters have strength or weakeness. It's crazy to downplay atheletic part of a skater including 'big jumps'.

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    What Brown needs to do is spend a lot of time before the next GP/JGP season with Ouriashev, Gracie Gold's coach, or some other great jump coach. Ouriashev is in Chicago. He is clearly a heck of a jump coach. Brown lives in the Chicago area, so it looks like a natural to me.

    And maybe some of Jason's strengths would rub off on Gracie---all good.

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    "A whole package" without a 3A while others have quads already?

    It's also easier to be clean and artistic with an easy program. Have you also seen Yan and Hanyu in person to decide on their relative performance values? With the big jumps?

    Not saying Jason won't get his big jumps too. But the hype and hope is unrealistic for right now. Wait till he is truly a whole package.

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    Jason definitely needs to land 3A and the reason I have unrealistic hope for his career is that he moves me. I am praying for someone with his artistic/interpretive qualities to medal and do well in the next years. Is he capable of outshining the future "big dogs"? I do not know for sure, but I really hope.

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    I've had this same thought, Doris: That Jason should spend a month or two this summer working with a special jumping coach to get the 3A. Isn't that how Patrick Chan got his 3A and quad? I thought he moved to Colorado Springs to work with a special jumping coach there. (Although I may be remembering this incorrectly.)

    It sounds like Jason and his regular coach have been working hard on the 3A, but to no avail. So a special jumping coach might be the solution. I wonder also if Jason should start working on the quad at the same time as 3A (maybe he already is). Perhaps that would take some pressure off the 3A quest and give him a shot at getting both these necessary jumps.

    This year's Nationals was the first time I'd seen Jason. He is extraordinarily talented. His long program at Nationals just blew me away and was, in fact, the highlight of the whole competition for me. BUT, he absolutely needs that 3A. He cannot be competitive at the senior level without it.


    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    What Brown needs to do is spend a lot of time before the next GP/JGP season with Ouriashev, Gracie Gold's coach, or some other great jump coach. Ouriashev is in Chicago. He is clearly a heck of a jump coach. Brown lives in the Chicago area, so it looks like a natural to me.

    And maybe some of Jason's strengths would rub off on Gracie---all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    What Brown needs to do is spend a lot of time before the next GP/JGP season with Ouriashev, Gracie Gold's coach, or some other great jump coach. Ouriashev is in Chicago. He is clearly a heck of a jump coach. Brown lives in the Chicago area, so it looks like a natural to me.

    And maybe some of Jason's strengths would rub off on Gracie---all good.
    Wow - combining the qualities of Gracie and Jason into 1 skater. That would be one great skater!! The US Fed should make arrangements to bring them together under Frank Carroll or John Nicks to get the best out of them (retaining Ouriashev as jump coach).

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