03-07-2012, 06:40 PM
Well, imho, Jason and Kevin have different looks that they obviously like or picked. I personally neither looks great in them or as aesthetically pleasing as it could be. As long as they are happy in respect to their personal lives; but as for competing well I suppose it affects the impression. I am not sure Jason's attitude (pony tail) is elegant. clean, simple, practical and off his face for sure. Maybe a side part would be better or no part. As for Kevin, I guess in fairness he has a "piecier" look of Daisuke.
03-07-2012, 07:15 PM
I agree but I do think Jason could benefit from a side part, Vanessa Lam too. The hair so tightly pulled back with a part right down the middle is too severe a look for both of them.
Originally Posted by chuckm
03-08-2012, 12:47 AM
Yes, you are very wrong on this account. I'm a Patrick fan, but I've let great many talks about Patrick went by and passed without saying even a word about it defending him or otherwise. But I did pick some occasions to confront some posts which I thought were easy to respond because they were obviously absurd.
Originally Posted by Spun Silver
...So Patrick fans all have gotten names?! I wouldn't go that low as starting to call Brown fans names but it really angers me sometimes that many people who dislike Patrick Chan seem to having the liberty and habit of using offensive name calling.
Last edited by Bluebonnet; 03-08-2012 at 01:20 AM.
03-08-2012, 02:44 AM
I think the main difference between them is that you forget Jason's hairstyle when he's skating - he's that fascinating. Kevin Reynolds is far from that, no artistic skater, not consistent with his impressive jumps so you notice his hairstyle when he's skating.
Originally Posted by chuckm
03-08-2012, 06:53 AM
I dunno - Jason's hair bothers me. Not to the same extent as Kevin's, though. Jason's seems like a stylistic choice I just happen to dislike. Whereas Kevin's hair.... well, less so.
03-08-2012, 07:15 AM
Why are we talking about hairs on this thread? Let's bring the hair discussion to this thread: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...ostumes-in-Men which is more appropriate. We are all having a hair and costume (to a lesser degree) feast time over there.
This thread is about Jason's 3A.
03-08-2012, 11:22 AM
Jason doesn't HAVE a 3A so then it is a thread about nothing?
03-08-2012, 12:00 PM
I thought the answer to this question is rather obvious...
YES he does. Every competitive male skater (both jr and sr) needs a Triple Axel.
03-08-2012, 12:58 PM
The thread question is if he needs the 3A by next season to remain competitive. My answer is it depends on if he will be competing in the Junior or Senior rank and if being competitive means to win or to contend for a medal.
Without a 3A, he is far from a contender as a Senior and may win the Junior crown only if the field is weak. It's likely Yan will move on, with a new choreo possibly by Nichols. Ten too. Not sure about Farris and others up and comers.
Anyways, it's highly likely Brown will have his 3A and stay Junior next season.
03-08-2012, 01:08 PM
It seems as if you bring Pdiddy into every thread, regardless of what it's about (even into the JW Men SP thread). OF COURSE a Chan uber is going to compare every other skater to Chan and find him wanting. You made your point, such as it is. But the rest of us will take it from whence it comes and toss a bit of salt over the shoulder.
Originally Posted by Bluebonnet
03-08-2012, 01:14 PM
Okay, well certainly a 3a would make Mr. Brown more competitive but one can be competitive with a single toe - the question is HOW competitive? LOL - if we are getting technical.
03-08-2012, 01:22 PM
Didn't really want to get back into this thread, but a thought:
I feel the forum title is a bit limiting given that it's a yes or no question. Doris (or other mods) maybe we can change the thread title to something like "Jason Brown's future prospects." That way, people can talk more about Jason Brown's skating and competitive prospects — pro + con — as a whole.
03-08-2012, 03:35 PM
The main strength of the triple axel is that its GOE scales with the the Quad jumps (save the Quadruple Axel) GOE range. With a maximum of three GOE points, the already high base value of the triple axel jump is that much higher. Two good axels, with one in combination, can make a significant portion of a skater's technical score.
Originally Posted by Skater Boy
The forward edge allows a skater to enter the jump with a variety of entrances and build up GOE. The jump's spacing and entrance requirements are lenient enough to allow flexibility in where the jump is attempted, such as Patrick Chan initiating the triple axel in the width of the skating rink and in front of the judges during his Tango de Los Exiliados short program. In short, the jump enjoys some of the bonus a quad jump receives but doesn't have a quad's setup and spacing requirements.
Of course, the difficulty of the jump can vary person to person since the take-off edge is so different from the other jumps.
03-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl
Yes, I'll do that, since the thread has morphed considerably.
Originally Posted by Mrs. P
03-08-2012, 03:48 PM
Rooting for the divas with Kwanford
If you're talking about me, I don't dislike Patrick at all! He's a great skater! I just don't happen to think he's the greatest ever or even the most exciting to watch today. He's high on my list, though.
Originally Posted by Bluebonnet
If you want my opinion, a few Patrick ubers are so defensive of him that they not only make it unpleasant to discuss him but making some folks, at least speaking for myself, less enthusiastic about him than they otherwise would be. This handful of fans is so determined to rule Chan-talk that I've nicknamed them the Chan Patrol. I don't like this attempt to control and silence other posters. It's worked with me -- I'd rather avoid Patrick threads than get attacked by this group for dissenting from The Truth. But hey - I'm not going to spend my life dwelling on this - a, it's not fun, and b, I' d like to appreciate Patrick for the skater he is and his fans just get in the way of that.
BUT - when it comes to Patrick fans trying to make it hard for people to praise other skaters in the same breath as Patrick (even daring to say they like them better... blasphemy!), and causing them to exit conversations about those other skaters, then it's gone too far. Let's have some respect for all the skaters who aren't Patrick Chan as well as their fans. Let Jason Brown's fans enjoy him and admire him. It's not all about Patrick... or you.
As always, I speak for myself.