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    What would you like to see at Worlds 2012: MEN.....

    Gold: Daisuke Takahashi
    Why? Because his two programs, together, are by far the best offering a male skater has given us this year. Because he’s talented enough to merit two world titles. Because I suspect that next season, with the fast rising Hanyu and Kozuka, he might not have another chance
    What next? At this point, I’m just gonna enjoy the journey. Whatever he delivers, it’ll likely be fascinating.

    Silver: Patrick Chan
    Why? Because, despite “Aranjuez” being the best long program of the season, “Take Five” doesn’t excite me all that much. Because, in the Sochi-scheme of things, this is the least important title for him to take. But mainly to see what would happen to the Chan-will-win-everything meme.
    What next? Two new programs, neither choreographed by Lori Nichol. A short program to Led Zeppelin’s “Moby Dick” choreographed by Ingo Steuer and an LP to the Hero soundtrack, choreographed by David Wilson/Tom Dickson/or Kenji Miyamoto. Or “Vlatava.”

    Bronze: Brian Joubert
    Why? Because it would be a nice semi-retirement present. Because how can you root against a hometown favourite, especially one as iconic as Joubert. Because, rather like Shawn Sawyer last season, I think he’s doing this for himself and his own goals, and I believe that’s admirable.
    What next: Cup of China gold. Becoming the first singles skater to win all six GP events + the GPF (Shen/Zhao have done so as well – they also have won the now defunct Bofrost event). Then TEB and actual retirement.

    Fourth: Takahiko Kozuka
    Why? To quote Mark Twain: “Rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.” Because in the rush to anoint Hanyu the greatest thing since sliced bread and the general veneration of Takahashi, he’s been left behind somewhat. Because he’s taken roads less traveled/rewarded. Because I suspect a well skated Nausicaa would be a thing of beauty.
    What Next: Get the quad down permanently. I’d be interested in seeing him skate to something by Clint Mansell (The Fountain soundtrack?) or Alexander Desplat (a whole whack of great scores).

    Fifth: Javier Fernandez
    Why? Because I want a new European number one, and he’s charming enough. Because it’s always great when a small nation punches above its weight class. Because people should be rewarded for leaving Morosov.
    What next? Growth. A more tonally consistent long program,

    Sixth: Adam Rippon
    Why: Because I think it would be hilarious to see him beat Abbott. Because the last minute of his SP is a choreographic gem. Because he’s pushing himself technically. Because Miner et al are closing in fast and a top six/final group result would remind the world what he’s capable of.
    What next? Something dark and creepy. Like Alberto Iglacious’ score to The Skin I Lived In or Bad Education

    Seventh: Tomas Verner
    Why: Why not? Brezina’s not exciting me right now.
    What next? Retirement with his two top-five world finishes and Euro title

    Eighth: Jeremy Abbott
    Why: Because, for all the hype, the long program doesn’t move me. Because, on the other hand, his short program is second to Takahashi’s this season and continues his streak of amazing short programs
    What next? Hopefully a less trite and less pretentious long.

    Ninth: Nan Song
    Why: Top ten gives China two spots next year. With Han Yan on the rise, he’ll need it. Because he’s actually quite good and a clean Song would deserve this on his own merits. Because the more countries the merrier.
    What next? More refinement. Hopefully a greater recognition of his performance qualities.

    Tenth: Kevin van der Perren
    Why: Top ten gives Belgium two spots next year. Because he’s really cute when he’s happy (I half expected him to dislocate his shoulder after the EC 2011 SP). Because he’s made some improvements this year.
    What next? Two spots means he probably won’t retire, so continue making improvements, I guess.

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    I'd like to see your top three place as you describe, Pogue!

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    What do I want at Worlds?
    Perfect skates from all.
    Enough said.

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    Jorik Hendrickx is really good-another reason to want Kevin vdP to finish top 10.

    And I like the suggestions for Patrick's programs next year!

    OTOH, I'd like to see Abbott & Rippon at least 6th & 7th in either order. Ross deserves another trip to Worlds! Or whomever the 3rd place US man is next year...

    And I would like to see Brian medal in Nice...

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    I wish I could believe what you write of is actually possible, ImaginaryPogue. And personally, it kills me that I don't.

    Anyway, I really like your proposed music choices for Chan. I think Hero would do very well next season, particularly because it would be a nice way to acknowledge Chan's heritage (since he does love China and all ), just like Lu Chen used to do. Personally, I would like Chan to skate something also not choreographed by Lori Nichol to the music of Beethoven, perhaps his Symphony No. 7.

    For Kozuka, I would like him to skate to something by Holst. Yes, something like Jupiter from The Planets. Seriously, if that doesn't wring any emotions out of him, nothing will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evangeline View Post
    I wish I could believe what you write of is actually possible, ImaginaryPogue. And personally, it kills me that I don't.

    Anyway, I really like your proposed music choices for Chan. I think Hero would do very well next season, particularly because it would be a nice way to acknowledge Chan's heritage (since he does love China and all ), just like Lu Chen used to do. Personally, I would like Chan to skate something also not choreographed by Lori Nichol to the music of Beethoven, perhaps his Symphony No. 7.

    For Kozuka, I would like him to skate to something by Holst. Yes, something like Jupiter from The Planets. Seriously, if that doesn't wring any emotions out of him, nothing will.
    To evangeline,

    Fot me, The Planets by Holst is the music I have been dreaming for Dai to perform!

    I am also a HUGE fan of rugby football for decades, and when I hear the music during the World Cup every 4 years, I always imagined Dai skating to the beautiful Jupiter.
    Would love to see it for his Long program at Sochi Olympic season if he still stays eligible.

    Also, the melody at the begining of Jupiter is just perfect for a quad attempt, and good vehicle for someone like Dai who has great presence on the ice, or Brian for that matter.
    Brian seems not to like classical piece of music very much, but The Planets would be suitable and skatable for him, too, don't you think?
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    I want Joubert to skate out of the box in front of home crowd and get his confidence back

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    Gold: Jeremy, because if this happen it will be his best skating ever. A dream come true for me(and him I suppose ). I love the way he moves to the music. Wish his focused face didn't look so grim, though.

    Silver: Verner, hehe, I never give up on him

    Bronze: Hanyu, it would be awesome. He seems very determined and I bet he has trained hard for this.

    Probably the podium will be Chan, Gachinski and Takahashi. But that's all right. I enjoy watching these three as well.

    7-10: Fernandez, Amodio , Reynolds and Majorov(so that Schultheiss is a certain for next world's).

    and then there are Van der Perren, Joubert, Rippon, Kozuka, Brezina, Liebers, Ten, Song etc. So many to like

    Well, if only they skate their best I am satisfied. It's so tough for them and they are trying such hard elements and performances. I fear many mistakes will be made. Men's competitions are incredibly exciting before start, but easily also disappointing when over (iike the SP at Vancouver olympics). I really, really want to see the men excel.

    GO ALL!

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    I just want to see Jeremy and Dai peak here and do what they are capable of.

    Wouldn't mind if Hanyu did the same!

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    I would like to see Chan breaks more world records, both short and long, just to shut some people up

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    Quote Originally Posted by blainechan View Post
    I would like to see Chan breaks more world records, both short and long, just to shut some people up
    If he skates well, he probably will break his own records, but there's no way these people are going to shut up lol.

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    1. Jeremy Abbott
    2. Tomas Verner
    3. Javier Fernandez
    4. Daisuke Takahashi
    5. Takahiko Kozuka
    6. Artur Gachinski
    7. Brian Joubert
    8. Yuzuru Hanyu
    9. Michal Brezina
    10. Adam Rippon
    11. Patrick Chan

    The medal podium is filled with 1st time medalists. USA, Japan, and Czech Republic all earn 3 spots for next year's Worlds. Long-time journey men Abbott and Verner finally fulfill their immense potential at the World Championships. In all honesty though, I wish all 11 of these men could be awarded gold medals; there is so much depth and talent in the men's event. What a treat it is to be a fan of this sport at this time in history!

    I've always been a believer in spreading the wealth and long-time competitors finally having their moment that teaches them that all the sacrifice and adversity and hard work was all worth it for THIS moment! I so want that to happen for Jeremy and Tomas! They are too great to never have won a World medal!
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    Jeremy a journeyman? No, no - he's a super-sensitive artiste with all the technical goods who only needs a thicker skin. To peak at the right moment would be nice too.

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    A lot of gems in your proposal, Pogue!

    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    Gold: Daisuke Takahashi
    Why? Because his two programs, together, are by far the best offering a male skater has given us this year. Because he’s talented enough to merit two world titles. Because I suspect that next season, with the fast rising Hanyu and Kozuka, he might not have another chance
    What next? At this point, I’m just gonna enjoy the journey. Whatever he delivers, it’ll likely be fascinating.
    I like Takahashi's LP a lot more than his SP. I don't think his SP is out of ordinary. If Chan made mistakes and Takahashi were clean, I'd be happy to have gold given to him. Otherwise, I'd be upset.

    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    Silver: Patrick Chan
    Why? Because, despite “Aranjuez” being the best long program of the season, “Take Five” doesn’t excite me all that much. Because, in the Sochi-scheme of things, this is the least important title for him to take. But mainly to see what would happen to the Chan-will-win-everything meme.
    What next? Two new programs, neither choreographed by Lori Nichol. A short program to Led Zeppelin’s “Moby Dick” choreographed by Ingo Steuer and an LP to the Hero soundtrack, choreographed by David Wilson/Tom Dickson/or Kenji Miyamoto. Or “Vlatava.”
    The funny thing is that I enjoyed "Take Five" this year a lot more than last year. I think Chan skated his SP near perfection artistically most of the time this season.

    I'm afraid that Mr.Lakernik's interview has waked the "clueless" judges, like Mr. Inman had done to the judges before 2010 Olympics. So the scores between Chan and the rest of the top skaters might be surprising to skating fans.

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    Bronze: Brian Joubert
    Why? Because it would be a nice semi-retirement present. Because how can you root against a hometown favourite, especially one as iconic as Joubert. Because, rather like Shawn Sawyer last season, I think he’s doing this for himself and his own goals, and I believe that’s admirable.
    What next: Cup of China gold. Becoming the first singles skater to win all six GP events + the GPF (Shen/Zhao have done so as well – they also have won the now defunct Bofrost event). Then TEB and actual retirement.
    I like this idea but don't like his programs. I'd be happy to see him on the podium before his retiring.

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