Ah, Nadine. Nobody but yourself I believe has made pronouncements about the American men "breaking records," especially not in the Ladies thread.
Yes skfan, non-American ladies work just as hard, maybe some even harder. Many of the ladies have top level skills, but in all honesty I must say that Alissa in 16th place is obviously because she didn't land the necessary jump elements -- she's not a technically strong jumper, but she does have the ability to land her jumps, and she is above-average in all other categories. Her spins trump everyone else in this field. It has always been Alissa's up-and-down lack of confidence on her jumps that has caused her problems, not her ability to do the jumps. I agree with the poster who stated that if Alissa miraculously can land everything in her fp and perform up to her ability, she is easily better than at least 9 through 15 place ladies in the sp. If you don't think so, that's your perception. Ashley didn't skate that poorly, and might have been scored a bit higher. Ashley's fp is very competitive with the rest of the top ladies.
You make good points, macy. I'm with you. Altho' I don't like either of Alene's programs this season (bad influence from Nikolai), I do feel that Alene has gotten stronger and stronger over the season, and she has been consistent on her elements all season long. I thought that Alene should have grabbed bronze at last year's World championships and that Carolina should have placed out of the medals there. Alissa also had a fairly good showing at last year's Worlds, but could have done better -- Alissa does not have the greatest rep with the judges b/c of her inconsistency, but they do respect her overall talent.
Re: Lakernik "memo", it has been discussed on other boards -- This is Alexander Lakernik, Chairman of the ISU technical committee. Surely there has already been a thread here too discussing Lakernik's views.
Alissa would do well to remember what she did 3 years ago at Worlds in Los Angeles after a similarly disheartening SP skate left her well out of the last 2 LP groups. With the pressure off, she rebounded quite nicely in the LP to finish 8th in that segment and 11th overall. It was a much deeper field of ladies at that Worlds, being the pre-Olympic season, than Worlds this year, so she has to have hope that if she can muster the same type of performance in the LP here, then a top 10 finish is not out of the realm of possibility.
I doubt Ashley will bomb. Here's why:
When she saw her scores, she was disappointed, but she sort of brushed it off, like "OK, not my best, but I did OK. Moving on." She did not dwell on them. I think she's already looking forward to the FS and she knows that she has the content to pull off a big score.
Also today, she could have given up after that step out, but she fought for every element. Expect a similar effort on Saturday.
She did well, and she got her TES score appropriately, but in what world should her PCS come close to Kostner or Asada? I think she's more or less Ashley but with stronger jumps. Her PCS should be in the 25-26 range.
I had to leave the house for work and missed Akiko. How did she skate? I see she is in fifth.
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I think Ashley can move up quite a bit from 8th; she's not *that* far behind the other skaters. Let's say she moves up to 5th. Where does Alissa have to place then?
Is Hersh going to write something about Alissa should have withdrawn and given up her spot?
Her silver at Nat was a gift, so she DIDN'T earn it.
I love Alissa and if (I know, a very big nigh impossible IF) she can just forget about the SP and just skate for herself and be free, I think she could move up to 8th.