03-29-2012, 10:39 PM
The judges should go back to the training camp and the strict Shin Amano be soaked in alcohol and pounded out with a meat tenderizer. Just kidding.
I guess the reason Kanako did not receive as high GOEs in her jumps as Alena did is probably due to her unorthodox techniques--swaggering with a big kick into a jump. Still, I think Alena was overmarked in PCSs.
03-29-2012, 10:47 PM
There are two comptitors from the US. Why is the burden on Ashley alone? Alissa is nice and a beutiful skater but she is never seems to be able to pull it off when it counts the most. It will be as much her fault if the US loses spots as it is Ashley's.
Last edited by Bentley; 03-29-2012 at 10:53 PM.
03-29-2012, 11:09 PM
I am a total hack amateur to this but I did prefer Murakami's performance over Leonova but I could see why she won and felt she and Murakami were undermarked. I also think how could someone with not one clean jump end up qualifying. PCS can only stay up so much when half your performance was struggling or picking yourself up on jumps. Czisny was overmarked in my opinion. I also found Mao a bit flat; Again my suggestion is Carolina take the gold and run. You have been a luck girl to win so many medals with often less than fabulous routines. Don't push it. I don't see Leonova holding on. The issue is can Russia hold on to three women. I can't see Ameilie Lacoste getting Canada two spots. She would need meltdown from skaters who seemed vulnerable - Czisny, Elene, Viktoria Hegelsen, Kexin, Makarova, Marchesi at least.
03-29-2012, 11:14 PM
Because Alissa is a lost cause at this point. There is virtually no chance that she skates a good long program this weekend. At this point, I'll be happy if she lands three clean triples (which I'm not expecting, given her landing zero clean triples in the long program at the Challenge Cup and bombing in the short program of this competition.)
Originally Posted by Bentley
The writing was on the wall with Alissa. This is USFSA's fault for sending her to the Worlds in the condition she is in. I do not understand the love affair they have with Alissa. Her technical ability is very poor. Even at her best, her jumps are questionable.
03-29-2012, 11:14 PM
Alena is never going to be elegant or a ballet princess. Yes, that program probably has too much posing, butt shaking and winking. But I think she is being packaged to her strengths. She doesn't have the skating skills of Mao, Carolina or most of the other contenders. But....she's charming, aggressive and has that "ta dah!" factor to her skating. She skates with pizazz. She's making the best of what she's got. I applaud her personality she showcases on the ice! I probably would have had Murakami in 1st. I appreciate how hard she fights when she's often overlooked by all the upcoming Russian phenoms. I agree that if she makes the podium here, it will really make it difficult for her federation to just cast her aside for the up and comers. I'm sure she knows that.
Originally Posted by kwanatic
03-29-2012, 11:22 PM
SkateFiguring took the violet pill
Alena's program is typical Morozov choreo which has high success rate of getting high scores with minimal effort, with rest stops masquerading as "artistic expressions".
Has Alissa done good LP after bombing the SP before?
03-29-2012, 11:26 PM
I think Team Czisny got feedback from the USFSA and international judges and they made it clear that if she didn't up the ante, she was not going to be a contender. She can't rely on just pretty, slow and safe skating to be a contender internationally. She doesn't have the speed or programs of Kostner. So watered down jumping wouldn't fly. It seemed to work early on as she did beat Kostner. Somewhere along the way she lost her confidence (and got injured) and it has snowballed. It's doubtful that her coaches didn't weigh all the options. Remember, their reputations are on the line as well. I think they did the best they could to make her competitive. Alissa has just fallen back to old habits and doubts.
Originally Posted by museksk8r
Last edited by tampro1; 03-29-2012 at 11:28 PM.
03-29-2012, 11:52 PM
Alissa and Carolina are similar in some ways, yes, BUT THERE ARE 2 HUGE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM:
1.) Carolina is a very strong jumper with excellent technique, while Alissa is a poor jumper with skary technique.
2.) Carolina, even when she bombed, was not wasting another deserving skater's chance to compete at the WCs, she's the best skater in Italy, hands down. When she was really tanking, Valentina beat her a few times, but Italy pretty much always has 2 spots for ladies at Euros and Worlds anyways, so it's not like she was even preventing Valentina from competing most of the time (and even a Kostner meltdown would place about the same as an average Marchei, so it's a moot point).
These two points make all the difference, and you think the USFS would have learned this by now, but no, they keep holding Alissa up at nationals even though they know she's a weak jumper and a complete headcase under pressure. It's one thing to send a headcase to Worlds when she has a legitimate chance at winning the title if she delivers and you don't have a handful of really talented skaters sitting at home, it's entirely another when the skater has no shot at winning the title even if perfect and there are 3 or 4 girls who have the same kind of scoring potential and are stronger jumpers and more consistent competitors sitting at home who deserve the shot to go.
03-30-2012, 12:46 AM
Carolina Kostner's worst showing was the LP in 2009 World, and her worst is about 30 points better than Alissa's worst.
Originally Posted by silverlake22
They are nothing similar. Caro is a headcase, but has incredible potential. How many girls still put out triple triple for almost a decade? Not Mao, not Yuna, not Miki, not Michelle.
The only lady who's similar to Caro is Shizuka. They are both inconsistent, but when they are at their best, they are the best in the world.
03-30-2012, 12:57 AM