Doris, WHRE ARE YOU? I need some objective observation in midst of all this hostile discussion!
Can we please move beyond this petty comments, please?! If you want to flame each other, do it by private message.
Also can we talk about some other storylines?
** What happened to Shibs? What should they do next?
** Is C/L a world medalist in the making?
** W/P — Will they catchup to V/M-D/W? Mathman seems to think so.
** P/B — Retire now with a bronze or keep going?
** B/S and I/K — who will be Russia No. 1 by 2014. Or will it be juniors S/Z?
** H/D — A lock of USA No. 3 or even a threat for No. 2? Can Chock/Bates, Samulseon/Gilles, and others catch up?
** Should we start giving 4-5 spots to each country now...? The top 10 was basically Russia (5,6,9), USA(2,8,10) and Canada (1 and 4) (with P/B and C/L playing spoiler).
Last edited by Mrs. P; 03-29-2012 at 08:40 PM.
I'd love to give it a try
* the Shibs ? they need more passion and stop skating like you are still juniors
* C/L - They will be the next P/B
*P/B - This was their last chance to medal at worlds and they did, good for them
they can compete until 2014 but isn't a guarantee anything they will stay successful .imo, they should retire after their 2012 Worlds medal
*W/P - They will podium very soon in world/grand prix final competitions, I can see them pulling an upset from D/W
*B/S - I/K - S/Z - B/S are done, it was just a matter of time before I/K surpass them but the real star will be S/Z.
S/Z the only ones I could think of newbies to challenge V/M and D/W by 2014
There are classless D/W fans and classless V/M fans. As there have been intelligent and engaging fans of both.
I get that everyone has their favorites, but I wish that people would not paint an entire group of fans with a broad stroke. That is unfair to people like Doris, who prefers D/W but has spent much of her time explaining why people win or lose or Northern Dancers, who has shown preference to V/M but has spent time explaining her/his points.
Let's all work together to keep the discussion classy, OK.
and taking some of the teams not that equally. Its never good to have all top teams trained under same coach. your development will be limited
Ingo is good, will be interesting how he can experiment with ice dance
I doubt it. They seem to be late bloomers but they are older than almost all the top teams. A European medal would be a more feasible goal for them.** Is C/L a world medalist in the making?
I think they have a shot of catching D/W atleast. Probably not V/M unless her injury problems flare up again although they almost beat them in the SD at Canadians and seem to have more short term improvement left than almost everyone else so who knows. They need to get past P/B first though and get a World medal.** W/P — Will they catchup to V/M-D/W? Mathman seems to think so.
They should keep going. The Olympics and a potential medal are too close to not.** P/B — Retire now with a bronze or keep going?
I/K for sure. B/S are going nowhere fast. If they couldnt medal at Worlds in Russia last year with how the event played out they never will. The Russian fed. was probably just itching for an excuse to make I/K their #1 and this years Worlds results will suffice. I/K are their medal hopes for 2014, not B/S.** B/S and I/K — who will be Russia No. 1 by 2014. Or will it be juniors S/Z?
I dont see any major changes in the U.S dance pecking order until after Sochi.** H/D — A lock of USA No. 3 or even a threat for No. 2? Can Chock/Bates, Samulseon/Gilles, and others catch up?
I think the problem is more with packaging. Maia and Alex are actually quite mature for their age (you can see that when they conduct themselves in interviews and the such), but that didn't really show in their programs this year. I don't think they should do super serious programs, that's not who they are. I think they need to do a program that is probably more mature, but still maintains that youthful energy and humor that people like about them.
I think this year was just a slight setback, which is crazy to say because any other skater in the U.S. would love to have their year — GP Gold, GP Silver, GPF berth, second silver Nationals medal and a top 10 finish at Worlds. But the fact is their success came quickly, so anything in comparison to last season was going to look bad.
right packaging I agree
also they being siblings could be holding them back giving more romantic passion and fire in their performance
As for what happened to the shibs he fell out of the first set and missed the second set then she didn't do the third set and you need two sets which they didn't have. Thus they got a zero for the element. They had really low footwork scores( both level two)
CL are supposedly moving to marina and igor. Well see how it works for them
Pechalat and Bourzat have said that they're continuing til Sochi iirc
Russian number one: even without the fall bs wouldn't have beaten ik. If they stay with Kustarova they have no chance. Hopefully Sinitsina and Zighanshin leave Kustarova as well. She doesn't package her skaters well and blames politics instead of making changes to get levels up.
And they have — I think last season's program was great, as the programs they did as juniors (Cinema Paradiso, Memoirs of a Geisha...)
its not too late for S/Z, its still very early and will get their senior debut, perfect time to leave Kustarova
Kustarova is good with juniors but fails to transition them into seniors, very prehistoric and her training styles are limited
As for the shibs they have some limitations as they are brother and sister. That said they can still be mature.
Sinitsina and Zighanshin have a lot of promise but I don't see them challenging for more than a bronze until after Sochi. But I really like their unison and pair movements. Another promising team is stepanova and bukin