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    Denis Ten and Jeremy Abbott performed the best 3Axels today, both scoring +1.86 in GOE for a total of 10.36 points.
    Michal Brezina's 4Salchow was the best executed quad today, scoring +1.14 in GOE for a total of 11.64 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treeloving View Post
    Like Leonova, its seem there is one judge who really like Morozov style, he/she gave him 9 in PCS.
    Likes his style so much so that a judge even gave Amodio 9.0 for skating skills? Morozov's choreography cannot be that bewitching, can it? Or can a judge be so unqualified? It makes me wonder if there is politics going on behind the scene. All in all, I think this year's Worlds has been one of the worst in terms of judging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFiguring View Post
    Don't deprive him.
    No, I didn't mean to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    Yes, much weaker. Watch two performances, who has better IN, PE, SS? Brian. Who has better CH, TR? Adam.
    Stretch, line, grace, flex aren't in PCS. I'm not saying you made anything up. You should watch Adam live to be disappointed. He's slow slow slow.
    There's no denying that Brian had a better sp performance than Adam overall, and that tends to lead judges to inflate marks, not to mention the home field advantage. Look at 4CC results and witness the home field advantage that had for some U.S. skaters (sure you must also skate well to receive the benefit of home field).

    Brian played well to the audience, but that does not mean he was effectively interpreting the music. And let's be honest, Brian's choreo has absolutely nothing on what Shae Lynn accomplished for Adam in the sp (and what Camerlengo created for Adam in the fp). Sure Adam does not have great speed (but he has performed his sp with greater speed this season). Adam's new programs definitely play to his strengths, and Adam has a lot of skills that Joubert simply does not have and never will. Joubert, God bless him, got himself prepared for this one and he may go out on a high note here -- unless he tries to come back for another two years and bombs in Sochi.

    No matter how poorly Adam skates, he is not "disappointing" to me. He may have "disappointed" himself here in the sp. Hopefully, he will get over it and skate his best in the fp. That's what it takes to place well in competition. Chan OTOH appears to get rep points for just showing up. I do give Patrick and Dai their due, they rebounded well from early mistakes. The judges have given many skaters more than their due on the marks. Even Jeremy and Adam when they look at their marks, should get that the judges appreciate their talent, despite the errors. Hope that enables them to shake off the pressure and zone in on what got them here.

    ETA: Joubert does not have great speed either and spins are definitely not his strong point, but he has worked hard to improve them and tries mightily to camouflage that weakness.
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    What are the rankings so far? Have I missed someone posting them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    I'm not so sure about this.

    If Takahashi isn't on par technically in LP, there is a chance that he could finish off the podium. Same to Brezina. I'm not so worried about Chan because he usually has strong technical content in LP, and could extend the gap between him and the next skater further. Joubert or Fernandez has a great chance to be on the podium.
    True. Patrick has more advantages over other sakters in LP. He is able to execute more elements with better quality. I can't wait see the chan-haters cry their heart out tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spun Silver View Post
    Huh??
    Patrick is a better skater than Michal; I've never questioned that. Dai's 3T got a double << and was downgraded, which really cost him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatinginbc View Post
    Likes his style so much so that a judge even gave Amodio 9.0 for skating skills? Morozov's choreography cannot be that bewitching, can it? Or can a judge be so unqualified? It makes me wonder if there is politics going on behind the scene. All in all, I think this year's Worlds has been one of the worst in terms of judging.
    What's to wonder? There is always politics going on behind the scenes in the world of figure skating. You don't think skaters are aware of that fact? It is just part of the sport -- and the skaters are taught to do what they can, what is in their control on the ice, and the results are out of their control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    What are the rankings so far? Have I missed someone posting them?
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc2012/SEG005.HTM

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc..._SP_Scores.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    What are the rankings so far? Have I missed someone posting them?
    1 Q Patrick CHAN CAN 89.41 46.24 43.17 8.79 8.32 8.71 8.64 8.71 0.00 #19
    2 Q Michal BREZINA CZE 87.67 48.70 38.97 7.96 7.50 7.79 7.79 7.93 0.00 #21
    3 Q Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN 85.72 43.43 42.29 8.54 8.14 8.57 8.43 8.61 0.00 #22
    4 Q Brian JOUBERT FRA 83.47 44.35 39.12 8.00 7.29 8.04 7.86 7.93 0.00 #16
    5 Q Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 81.87 43.72 38.15 7.75 7.32 7.61 7.68 7.79 0.00 #29
    6 Q Florent AMODIO FRA 79.96 42.82 38.14 7.75 7.25 7.71 7.68 7.75 1.00 #26
    7 Q Yuzuru HANYU JPN 77.07 38.68 38.39 7.93 7.43 7.68 7.64 7.71 0.00 #27
    8 Q Denis TEN KAZ 76.00 41.64 34.36 7.11 6.54 6.89 6.89 6.93 0.00 #8
    9 Q Jeremy ABBOTT USA 74.85 34.64 41.21 8.21 8.18 8.18 8.18 8.46 1.00 #23
    10 Q Adam RIPPON USA 73.55 37.77 35.78 7.32 6.89 7.18 7.14 7.25 0.00 #18
    11 Q Samuel CONTESTI ITA 73.55 37.58 35.97 7.25 6.79 7.36 7.21 7.36 0.00 #20
    12 Q Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 72.95 39.49 33.46 6.82 6.43 6.82 6.68 6.71 0.00 #7
    13 Q Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 71.78 35.96 37.82 7.79 7.32 7.46 7.61 7.64 2.00 #28
    14 Q Tomas VERNER CZE 70.38 33.10 37.28 7.71 7.21 7.43 7.39 7.54 0.00 #30
    15 Q Nan SONG CHN 69.58 39.48 31.10 6.50 5.82 6.25 6.21 6.32 1.00 #13
    16 Q Artur GACHINSKI RUS 68.50 31.39 37.11 7.64 7.04 7.43 7.50 7.50 0.00 #25
    17 Q Sergei VORONOV RUS 66.81 36.52 30.29 6.29 5.64 6.11 6.07 6.18 0.00 #1
    18 Q Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL 66.38 32.63 33.75 6.96 6.46 6.79 6.79 6.75 0.00 #24
    19 Q Misha GE UZB 65.29 33.72 31.57 6.39 5.89 6.43 6.36 6.50 0.00 #12
    20 Q Christopher CALUZA PHI 61.87 31.76 30.11 6.11 5.71 6.14 6.04 6.11 0.00 #11
    21 Q Viktor PFEIFER AUT 60.61 31.28 29.33 6.04 5.50 5.86 5.93 6.00 0.00 #14
    22 Q Kim LUCINE MON 59.93 31.33 28.60 5.93 5.39 5.71 5.68 5.89 0.00 #9
    23 Q Peter LIEBERS GER 58.21 31.64 28.57 5.93 5.61 5.68 5.64 5.71 2.00 #5
    24 Q Javier RAYA ESP 57.22 29.30 27.92 5.68 5.39 5.57 5.71 5.57 0.00 #4

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    Fatal mistakes for Abbott: fall on 3T, doubled 3Lutz, and only a Level 1 on one of his spins.

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    Thanks so much, Bluebonnet!

    Look at Dennis Ten, up there in eighth.

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    Congrats to Patrick, Michal and Dai, well done!! All three were just fabulous and IMO the placements are correct.

    I did not watch the last group because I had a meeting that I could not miss.

    I am back home now and see that videos are being posted, thanks for that. I am going to watch Javier now.

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    Home advantage happens everywhere a competition is held, I dont understand why this is a surprise for Nice, like wheel was re- invented or what?
    In which competition there was no home advantage?
    Ouch for Russian men, Arthur lost around 12points with the 2-2
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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    Home advantage happens everywhere a competition is held, I dont understand why this is a surprise for Nice, like wheel was re- invented.
    In which competition there was no home advantage?
    If only the ISU would accept my proposal to hold competitions on the moon.

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