03-31-2012, 05:26 PM
The French crowd has obviously not forgotten Patrick's comments and war of words with Joubert a few years ago!
Originally Posted by CassAgain
03-31-2012, 05:27 PM
or Patrick didn't deserve the high scores? lol
Originally Posted by roots
03-31-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm not quite sure if Chan got his TES fair and square. Despite landing 2 quads, Chan had 5.9 points LESS in Base Value in comparison to takahashi (Chan = 74, Dai= almost 80). And in the execution of the jumps, Chan had a fall and his combo (w/ the 2s) was bad. He was simply well overscored overall and Dai was definitely held back.
Originally Posted by wonderlen3000
03-31-2012, 05:33 PM
And which scores are those? He scored a "0" on the axel. You can argue his 5+ points over Dai in PCS, but even if tied him or Dai got scored a bit higher, Chan still somes out on top.
Originally Posted by Becki
03-31-2012, 05:34 PM
Congratulations Patrick Chan! Excellent performance, despite the tiny errors. In fact, there have been MANY a gold medals won at this level with errors in the routines for the greatest men's and women's champions in the IJS era.
For those in France who were supporting the other competitors, it is RUDE to boo the winner, no matter the grievances. I am guessing this could be attributed to the local Joubert fans. S of France locals have proven themselves to have the sophistication of NASCAR and World Wrestling Federation fans. Well done!
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03-31-2012, 05:35 PM
Thanks for giving us the results of the interviews. How charming both the Japanese skaters are! I'm so glad they both did so well. I can't wait to see their programs.
Originally Posted by let`s talk
I was rooting for Daisuke to win gold. But I gather Chan did a great job, and congratulations to him. The one thing I can neither stand nor understand is booing him on the podium. He skated his very best and gave it his all, as every other skater tried to do. This isn't the ancient Roman Olympics, where the Emperor Nero took part and expected to win every event he was in. This is a serious, excellent athlete who doesn't have any power over the judges. He did not intimidate any judge or other competitor or cheat in his program. He deserves polite applause at the very least--not boos. Not ever.
03-31-2012, 06:17 PM
“On the double Axel it was a combination of being a bit late to the music and it being a long program. I lost concentration a bit,” said Chan. (http://www.thespec.com/sports/articl...nores-the-boos).
Late to the music, finishing behind the music = 9.0s CH and IN?
“The whole point is that I didn’t skate necessarily lights out but the thing is I skated smart and just made sure those little details were done well,” Chan said.
Which PCS category includes the ability of projecting to or connecting with the audience? Boos from the audience certainly tells us how successful the connection/projection was made.
"Insiders know that Chan’s pure skating skills and flow are well above anyone else’s at the moment, even though Takahashi and a few others have great feet and feel too."
Chan has the best skating skills, but under the current judging system it is only one of the five categories in PCSs. If the judges like to assign similar scores across all categories without actually differentiating them based on the prescribed criteria and actual performance, let's get rid of all categories and name it "Skating Skills" instead.
03-31-2012, 06:24 PM
It's hard this time not only because this is his first time to defend his title, but also because of the unusual competition time - as I pointed out before, the time is the worst for skaters from North America.
Originally Posted by SkateFiguring
The booing can't be worse than being stabbed on the back by your reporter friend right before an important competition. I wouldn't worry about it if I were him. I do think he still needs to learn how to overcome the nervouseness in order to win the gold in Sochi. I thought he had taken care of the problem, but his performance today showed he still has a long way to go.
Overall, it's has been a great season for Patrick and his fans. I am drinking a glass of wine as I am typing. Life is good. Gan Bei.
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03-31-2012, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the link!
Originally Posted by skatinginbc
03-31-2012, 06:53 PM
Ingo Steuer knows what he is talking about if it wasn`t for that double axel there would be no talk, and V&M were brilliant the response was not underwhelming i sense the crowd had some sort of grudge with canada`s top skaters seems they haven`t forgotten Canadians calling the head of their federation Didier Guaillaguet the biggest crook in skating.
03-31-2012, 06:59 PM
The crowd booed at Chan to indicate that they were angry with the unfair results. What other way could they find to indicate to those judges that they didn't agree to the score given to Patrick Chan? They booed at one judge when they could, but there was no other way to show them that it wasn't fair. Sometimes you have to do something that is not very polite to show disapproval. The crowd has the right to show those judges that they don't agree with the cheating and pre-determined results. Congrats to them to have the guts and not pretend everything is OK with this result.
Originally Posted by Olympia
03-31-2012, 07:00 PM
Btw, who was the commentator for universal sports?
that guy is awful! when Yuzuru landed his quad, he said "there it is, look how......simple....not simple, very difficult"
03-31-2012, 07:11 PM
it sounded like Peter Curuthers (sp?) to me and, I hate to say it because he is so informed, but his commentating grated badly on my nerves in this and many other examples.