Last edited by pangtongfan; 04-01-2012 at 09:00 AM.
sad to say for now, Polina K. is a bit of a headcase
I have doubts yet who will be the better Polina, Shelepen or Korobeynikova
I think Shelepen has an edge because she is like Miki Ando on jumps, has full arsenal of 3-3 jumps (3S-3T, 3F-3T, 3Lz-3T) but Shelepen needs better skating skills and artistry, I saw a clip but I lost it, she was attempting a quad salchow.
and if Leonova can medal at worlds why not Shelepen ? LOL
Last edited by sky_fly20; 04-01-2012 at 09:03 AM.
Rightly or wrongly Leonova gets very high PCS which Shelepen sure as heck wont be getting anytime soon, barring major improvements. Leonova is also a consistent and stable competitor, which Shelepen is far from. You can have the jumps but if you dont do them all in competition it doesnt matter much. Shelepen cant even beat out frigging Makarova for a spot on the World team right now, so obviously at the moment she is much worse than Leonova.
It will be interesting to see if any of the Polinas can put themselves into serious contention for a Russian World team anytime soon with the 3 wunderkids and Leonova all clearly above them at the moment.
I think she practices yoga too, right?
All that said, I do think Russia knows what it has in Alena: someone who is definitely past puberty and can still jump, and who also pulls decent PCS is nothing to scoff at. If she can keep her triple triple she is in good shape.
Zhang/Zhang ... i think the injurys give them no future...
Pang/Tong.... both chinese pairs feel the pressure of the junior world champs S/H and vice junior champs Y/...they look oldfashioned in both progamms @ worlds
Kemp/King... coach change this season gave them some new things (2A, 3LTw) but they don t qualify again
Popova/Massut.... i don t know if she wanna stay with him... i remember his reaction after lp @ europeans...
Kavaguti/Smirnov... hard to say... depends on the treatments by thei federation...
K/S weren't that bad. They messed up 2 lifts, so it was entirely possible that they can fix that. Easily get bronze this year without the freak falls.
People actually thought their PCS were a bit lower.
Pang/Tong skated like 4th place in China and still managed to place 4th at World. They have no reason to retire until after Sochi. When they are clean, their PCS will be huge, no matter what.
Zhang/Zhang maybe retire. They have no chance at the podium. In fact, their chance of a podium is even less than T/T and T/T are the most inconsistent top pair I could think of.
Plus it looks like Brian was down and out with injury for a little while and is now slowly making his way back up the ladder.
Morozov will give her the Miki Ando 3.0 treatment ala Leonova, same choreo and music, it never fails
hey, like I said, If Leonova can medal at Worlds why NOT Shelepen who is capable of more jumps ?
As for your points:
1. Hanyu had a really bad short program which is very unusual for him. He still came from behind to easily pass Brian who skated his best in both programs. Hanyu usually skates better than that (considering both programs) not worse, while Brian will almost never skate that well at this phase of his career.
2. Takahashi was far ahead of Brian. He could have had several more major mistakes (in addition to his fall in the short) and still come out ahead.
3. This is the last major event in France in the near future. Brian will not get anywhere near the PCS he got at Worlds anywhere else. Look at his PCS the rest of the season, even considering he didnt skate as well, and you will get the idea. You seriously think he averages 8 or above in PCS anywhere but France at this point of his career, LOL!
4. If you want to do what ifs almost the entire field of contenders was below par apart from Chan and Takahashi (and Hanyu in the LP only, Brezina in the SP only). Brian probably skated closer to his current best than anyone, including even Chan and Takahashi. We can say what if Abbott, Brezina, Kozuka, Fernandez, Gachinski, and others had all skated their best. Would Joubert have even been in the top 10?
I dont go there as it is unrealistic to expect all to skate their best, but most competitions more of his competitors will skate better than they did here which wasnt exactly a good event for most, he will obviously be hard pressed to equal that kind of performance often or ever again, and he wont get the same PCS he did here anywhere else. All that said and he still wasnt really close to a medal (despite coming 4th overall). If he is at the 2013 Worlds and 2014 Olympics, he is most likely to be fighting just to be in the top 10 at best, not for a medal, Nice was much closer than he will ever come again, and I think he realizes that and wont see it as worth the bother.