2012 ISU World Team Trophy Predictions

[enlight78]

The six teams are
Japan (7891 points),
Canada (6943 points)
Russia (6807 points)
USA (6399 points)
Italy (5412 points)
France (5214 points)

My Predictions :
Gold Canada
Silver Russia
Bronze USA
4th Japan
5th Italy
6th France

[PolymerBob]

Predictions are tough until we see who is competing.

[Mathman]

Gold: Canada. Chan will be heavily favored to for the men, Virtue and Moir will probably get first in dance and no worse than second, Duhamel and Radford are headed in the right direction.

Silver Japan: Japan's got a pairs team! They also have two strong men and two strong ladies (in fact, they have a choice of strong men and ladies).

Bronze: Russia

Fourth: USA. We got diddly, but we might stay ahead of Italy and France.

[SkateFiguring]

Are points cumulative or only for placements in this event? I think it will be for placements at the Olympics. Not sure about this one.

[enlight78]

Are points cumulative or only for placements in this event? I think it will be for placements at the Olympics. Not sure about this one.

Placements is what counts.

[golden411]

Are points cumulative or only for placements in this event? I think it will be for placements at the Olympics. Not sure about this one.

Placements is what counts.

Yes, for 2012 Tokyo, placements determine the winner. (If necessary, points will be used as tiebreakers.) Official ISU language:

"To determine the final result of the ISU World Team Trophy the following rule will be used:

- For each category points will be awarded assigning 12 points to the first placed Single Skater/Pair Skating, Ice Dance couple and decreasing in descending order by one point, i.e. 12, 11, 10, 9, etc. The last placed participant in the Single categories (if all Skaters have completed the event) will receive 1 point and similarly the last places in the Pair Skating and Ice Dance categories will receive 7 points.
- The team having earned the highest number of aggregate points is the winner; the team having earned the second highest number of aggregate points is ranked second and so on.
- When forming the final result, in case of a tie between teams, the tie breaking procedure will be used taking into consideration the 2 best places of the concerned teams in different categories. The highest total points from the 2 best places will prevail and the respective placements recorded accordingly.
-If ties persist, the 3 best places in different categories will be considered and the highest total points from the 3 best places will prevail and the respective placements recorded accordingly."

(Whether the ISU already has spelled out the same rules for Sochi is a separate question -- for which I don't have an answer.)

ETA:
Sorry, Mathman, I was in the middle of writing out my reply when you posted yours. Didn't mean to be redundant.

[Mathman]

We just need a diddly to replace Alissa.

Caroline should go based on U.S. Nationals and Four Continents. But they might send Mirai based on world standings. Also the Japanese fans, TV, etc., like Mirai.

Are points cumulative or only for placements in this event? I think it will be for placements at the Olympics. Not sure about this one.

Here are the official rules. (For some reason I cannot give a direct link to the pdf file. Click on "Announcement" at the bottom right.)

http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/p...v-list,00.html

[PolymerBob]

Gold: Canada. Chan will be heavily favored to for the men, Virtue and Moir will probably get first in dance and no worse than second, Duhamel and Radford are headed in the right direction.

Silver Japan: Japan's got a pairs team! They also have two strong men and two strong ladies (in fact, they have a choice of strong men and ladies).

Bronze: Russia

Fourth: USA. We got diddly, but we might stay ahead of Italy and France.

Except that 2 of our diddlys could be the reason why Virtue and Moir place second.
And another diddly was the first U.S. man to win the senior Grand Prix Final.
We just need a diddly to replace Alissa.

[Buttercup]

Last time the results were USA, Canada, Japan, France, Russia, China. Russia's ladies are now better, and everything else seems about the same, so they should do better. I don't see Canada winning this. Since the WTT is two ladies, two men, one dance team and one pair - countries whose strength (and depth) is in singles have the edge. Namely, Japan, especially now that they have a good pair.

If P/B go, I think Team France might do better than expected. If Nathalie needs time off to let her injury heal, not so much. Their FB update from this morning seems to suggest that they are in, FWIW.

[PolymerBob]

Here is the USFSA official assignment / results page.

http://www.usfsa.org/Athletes.asp?id=216

It has been updated since Worlds, but the WTT team has not yet been posted.