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2012 ISU World Team Trophy Predictions

RemyRose

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US Team:

Gold, Wagner
Abbott, Rippon
D/W
D/C

So is this a slap in all the ladies ranked above Gold's face [Zhang, Mirai (expected), Rachael (expected), Agnes, and Csizny (expected)]???? With Lam being alternate :rolleye:

I guess it's time to promote the young ones.
 
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PolymerBob

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So is this a slap in all the ladies ranked above Gold's face [Zhang, Mirai (expected), Rachael (expected), Agnes, and Csizny (expected)]???? With Lam being alternate :rolleye:

I would say no. I must believe that a few ladies declined the offer before this list was made.
( At least, I would LIKE to believe that. )
 

MarkusNJ

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I think its a good choice...although I wish they picked Miner....ah well

As for the choice of Gold over the other ladies, I think the USFSA is done with skaters who have major meltdowns (Mirai and Czisny), and they are preparing Gold for her senior debut next year. Personally, I commend them for doing it. We need the 3 spots back next year, maybe they are setting the stage!
 

demarinis5

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Good team. Is this Gracie's senior international debut?
 

cornell08

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I would say no. I must believe that a few ladies declined the offer before this list was made.
( At least, I would LIKE to believe that. )

I hope so as well....although I would have put Caroline instead of Gracie, either would have been a decent choice. However, Vanessa Lam as alternate? Please tell me at least someone declined...
 

enlight78

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Gachinski is not going, Zhan Bush is for Russia- and I am shocked that they are sending Gracie Gold instead of Zhang-
 

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Good team. Is this Gracie's senior international debut?

According to her ISU bio, her only international experience has been at two junior events:
- World Junior Championships 2012 (silver)
- ISU JGP Tallinn Cup 2011 (gold)
 

sequinsgalore

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Team USA
Abbott, Rippon, Wagner, Gold, Denney/Coughlin, Davis/White

Team Canada
Chan, Reynolds, Lacoste, Phanuef, Duhamel/Radford, Virtue/Moir

Team France
Amodio, Joubert, Meite, Silete, Popova/Massot, Pechalat/Bourzat

Team Italy
Bacchini, Contesti, Kostner, Marchei, Berton/Hotarek, Cappellini/Lanotte

Team Japan
Kozuka, Takahashi, Murakami, Suzuki, Takahashi/Tran, Reed/Reed

Team Russia
Bush, Voronov, Leonova, Sotnikova, Bazarova/Larionov, Ilinykh/Katsalapov

Predictions?
 

icellist

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well, it makes sense that many skaters declined to get to that point. Caroline probably declined because she needs a new LP. Mirai wasn't training her programs. Caroline, Agnes, and Mirai were probably ahead of Gracie for the event. Especially since Vanessa Lam is the substitute, Christina Gao declined too. I wonder if USFSA was even thinking about WTT if one of the world competitors bombed. I feel like USFSA sent an email to a list of skaters and asked if they wanted them to participate in this event and organize accordingly. Ross was probably only training his programs once every few days so Rippon is justified.

Russian men aren't looking so good. Hoping that it would have been Tuktamysheva. Don't really mind I/K over B/S. Hoped for K/S but a clean B/L is nice too

Surprised that Oda isn't even a substitute unless he's injured. Yuki Nishino as substitute must mean she's the host pick for NHK next year

Sort of hoping for Osmond before Phaneuf, so Cynthia could have more time working with Orser.


Pairs looks interesting. No clear frontrunner except France might be at the bottom.
Dance: repeat worlds?
 

seniorita

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Team USA
Abbott, Rippon, Wagner, Gold, Denney/Coughlin, Davis/White

Team Canada
Chan, Reynolds, Lacoste, Phanuef, Duhamel/Radford, Virtue/Moir

Team France
Amodio, Joubert, Meite, Silete, Popova/Massot, Pechalat/Bourzat

Team Italy
Bacchini, Contesti, Kostner, Marchei, Berton/Hotarek, Cappellini/Lanotte

Team Japan
Kozuka, Takahashi, Murakami, Suzuki, Takahashi/Tran, Reed/Reed

Team Russia
Bush, Voronov, Leonova, Sotnikova, Bazarova/Larionov, Ilinykh/Katsalapov
Amodio and Joubert will rock it!
I was hoping Mirai, but Gold has a nice debut to enter seniors!!Yey Kostner, Ashley and Suzuki, cant get enough of their lp!
Side note, Japan is sending Kozuka and Dai and Russia Voronov and Bush, oh well.
 

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For anyone who cares to read the USFSA press release, I've copied it below.

[Note: The original Dec 2011 ISU WTT announcement had said that placement totals - not point totals - will determine the winning team. But USFSA says below that team totals of all scores will determine the winner??? My hunch is that USFSA made a mistake. Skate Canada's WTT press release earlier this wk said: "After the results, they receive placement points, which are then added together and the team with the highest points total will win the title." And the official Japanese page re WTT also says that placement totals will determine the winner.]

U.S. ENTRIES TO 2012 ISU WORLD TEAM TROPHY ANNOUNCED

(4/6/12) - U.S. Figure Skating announced today its entries for the 2012 ISU World Team Trophy, scheduled for April 19-22 in Tokyo. The U.S. team will be headlined by U.S. ice dancing champions Meryl Davis & Charlie White, who won their third consecutive World medal, silver, last week at the World Championships in Nice, France.

The team also features the other three reigning U.S. champions Ashley Wagner, Jeremy Abbott, and Caydee Denney & John Coughlin. Adam Rippon, the reigning U.S. silver medalist, and Gracie Gold, the 2012 U.S. junior champion, who will make her international senior debut, fill out the team.

World Team Trophy features the six best figure skating teams of the 2011-12 season, including Canada, France, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United States. Each team consists of two ladies, two men, one pair and one ice dancing couple. The scores of each team's skaters in the short programs/dance and free skates/dance will be added together and the highest point total will win.

U.S. skaters qualified based on results of the 2012 ISU World and World Junior Figure Skating Championships, the ISU Grand Prix and Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Series and Final, the ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships and the ISU World Rankings. Teams will compete for a total of $1 million USD in prize money.

Team USA won the inaugural World Team Trophy in 2009. This event was scheduled for last April in Japan, but was postponed following the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011. A modified version of World Team Trophy has been added to the schedule for the 2014 Olympic Winter Games in Sochi, Russia.



P.S.
Oops ... in an earlier reply about judges, I forgot to copy and paste the part of the ISU WTT announcement about the technical panel (nothing that helps us read tea leaves?):

12. ISU APPOINTED OFFICIALS
The ISU will appoint all Technical Officials (ISU Referees, ISU Technical Controllers, ISU Technical Specialists, Assistant Technical Specialists, and ISU Data & Replay Operators) and may appoint an Event Coordination Team for the ISU World Team Trophy.
The ISU Secretariat will inform the organizing ISU Member (JSF) of the names of the Officials assigned to their Event. No changes will be accepted unless confirmed in writing by the ISU Secretariat.


[Apologies for so many edits to this post ... am trying to be thorough. :)]
 
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RemyRose

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This is what I have so far :think:

Dance:
1. Canada
2. USA
3. France
4. Russia
5. Italy
6. Japan

Pairs:
1. Russia
2. Japan
3. Canada
4. USA
5. Italy
6. France

Team Final Results:
1. Japan
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Italy

Eh, I'll finish the rest later :laugh:
 
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DobrinFan, if you're trying to predict the ultimate order of team gold/silver/bronze, etc., I suggest that you keep the placements of the individual singles skaters separate - as opposed to one combined men's placement and one combined women's placement per country.

If I understand the rules correctly, each singles skater will receive his/her own placement points (from 12 for first place on down to 1 for last place).
In other words, Takahashi and Kozuka each will receive separate placement points.
[Pairs and dance couples will receive placement points from 12 on down to 7.]
 
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Sjs5572

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Entries are now listed (men, ladies, pairs, ice dance)

Team USA
Abbott, Rippon, Wagner, Gold, Denney/Coughlin, Davis/White

Team Canada
Chan, Reynolds, Lacoste, Phanuef, Duhamel/Radford, Virtue/Moir

Team France
Amodio, Joubert, Meite, Silete, Popova/Massot, Pechalat/Bourzat

Team Italy

Bacchini, Contesti, Kostner, Marchei, Berton/Hotarek, Cappellini/Lanotte

Team Japan
Kozuka, Takahashi, Murakami, Suzuki, Takahashi/Tran, Reed/Reed

Team Russia
Bush, Voronov, Leonova, Sotnikova, Bazarova/Larionov, Ilinykh/Katsalapov

Predictions?


Predictions:
Chan, Takahashi, Abbott, Kozuka, Amodio, Joubert, Rippon, Contesti, Reynolds, Voronov, Bush, Bacchini

Wagner, Suzuki, Kostner, Gold, Leonova, Murakami, Sotnikova, Marchei, Phaneuf, Silete, Lacoste, Meite

D/R, T/T, B/L, D/C, B/H, P/M

V/M, D/W, P/B, I/K, C/L, R/R
 
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RemyRose

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DobrinFan, if you're trying to predict the ultimate team winner, I suggest that you keep the placements of the individual singles skaters separate - as opposed to one combined men's placement and one combined women's placement per country.

If I understand the rules correctly, each singles skater will receive his/her own placement points (from 12 for first place on down to 1 for last place).
In other words, Takahashi and Kozuka each will receive separate placement points.
[Pairs and dance couples will receive placement points from 12 on down to 7.]

Okay, okay, but this will make things a lot harder my mind is going into overdrive :laugh:
 

Skater Boy

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I'm really surprised that Gachinski is going but not Tukt since I saw videos of Liza a few weeks ago and she looked pretty good while Gachinski is not doing well right now. And I'm REALLY surprised Sotnikova will go. I'm happy that she'll have another chance this year. I wonder why Sot is going instead of Liza... ISU didn't let her or Mishin decided to let her rest some more or Russia just decided to give Adelina another try? :confused2:
I don't think Liza is age eligible. Still Russia's chances dropped without V and T or even K and S. Japan is looking better and better. the USA has to find a second lady to back up Wagner. Send Alissa and see if she can redeem herself. if she bombs while it sounds mean - time for her to hit the books and may be do a few shows - Cinderella, a smurf whatever :)
 
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