I think it is very unlikely that the ISU will exercise its "right" to exclude an entire team mentioned in the last paragraph of Golden's post above. I think they are just mildly leaning on the federations to lean on the currently hot skaters in order to to make a better television show.
About age restrictions, I believe that the Russian federation made inquiries learlier to allow Elizavete Tuktamysysheva to compete. I don't know what the ISU ruling was, but i think the Russian federation dropped the matter in any case.
Last edited by Mathman; 04-03-2012 at 10:22 AM.
^^^^ It's equally unlikely that D/W and the USFSA want to appear to concede.
I was assuming S/S would take 2nd place, not thinking France and other non contending nations may beat them to take some points away. The US certainly can't afford to give those points to the Russians. I guess I forgot how low S/S placed most recently.
If/if re Tuktamysheva:
If her birth date is Dec 17, 1996 (as per ISU bio page), then by my arithmetic, she would have been 14 yrs old before July 1, 2011. If that is the WTT age requirement (as I believe), then she meets it. So maybe there is still hope that we will see her in Tokyo??
Mishin's students don't plan to go to WTT. Neither Liza nor Gachinski or Plush.
But about age, yes, I think you are right. The age is 14 for ISU International Competitions" (for instance the Grand Prix), and 15 for "ISU Championships" (Worlds, Euros and Four Continents). So is this a ISU Championship?
But the Team Trophy Annoucement makes it clear by referring to the ISU Constitution, rule 108, paragraph 2b (ISU Competitions) rather than 2a (Cahmpionships). So I guess the Russian Fed could have sent Elizaveta if they had wanted to.
Anyway, the national federations must submit their slate by Thursday, so we should know soon enough!
Not a prediction, but if each federation sent exactly the same skaters to the team trophy as they did to worlds, and if each skater pleced exactly the same way as at worlds, here is how it would turn out.
Japanese ladies can probably do better, maybe land two on the podium.
Canada #2 1
Canada can move up a point or two if Phaneuf comes as Canada #2 and beats someone.
Best chance to move up is for their men to do better, send Caroline Zhang as second lady.
Gachinski can do much better (but the report on this thread says he will not be going), but the ladies might not do as well as at Worlds.
Italy #2 1
Go Italy! Do they have another man?
France #2 1
Hard to overcome their weakness in ladies and pairs.
Last edited by Mathman; 04-03-2012 at 09:40 PM.
I think V/T aren't going, I think it could be because no competition for them since there is no S/S
Tuk Tuk is competing I think she did the test skates at Mishin Cup, don't know if they dropped her bid or not
the team could be:
1 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
2 Alena Leonova
3 Voronov, Gachinski not going ?
B/L are going instead of K/S. I'm so dissapointed((