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    This is what I have so far

    Dance:
    1. Canada
    2. USA
    3. France
    4. Russia
    5. Italy
    6. Japan

    Pairs:
    1. Russia
    2. Japan
    3. Canada
    4. USA
    5. Italy
    6. France

    Team Final Results:
    1. Japan
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.
    6. Italy

    Eh, I'll finish the rest later
    Last edited by DobrinFan; 04-06-2012 at 10:13 AM.

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    DobrinFan, if you're trying to predict the ultimate order of team gold/silver/bronze, etc., I suggest that you keep the placements of the individual singles skaters separate - as opposed to one combined men's placement and one combined women's placement per country.

    If I understand the rules correctly, each singles skater will receive his/her own placement points (from 12 for first place on down to 1 for last place).
    In other words, Takahashi and Kozuka each will receive separate placement points.
    [Pairs and dance couples will receive placement points from 12 on down to 7.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by sequinsgalore View Post
    Entries are now listed (men, ladies, pairs, ice dance)

    Team USA
    Abbott, Rippon, Wagner, Gold, Denney/Coughlin, Davis/White

    Team Canada
    Chan, Reynolds, Lacoste, Phanuef, Duhamel/Radford, Virtue/Moir

    Team France
    Amodio, Joubert, Meite, Silete, Popova/Massot, Pechalat/Bourzat

    Team Italy

    Bacchini, Contesti, Kostner, Marchei, Berton/Hotarek, Cappellini/Lanotte

    Team Japan
    Kozuka, Takahashi, Murakami, Suzuki, Takahashi/Tran, Reed/Reed

    Team Russia
    Bush, Voronov, Leonova, Sotnikova, Bazarova/Larionov, Ilinykh/Katsalapov

    Predictions?

    Predictions:
    Chan, Takahashi, Abbott, Kozuka, Amodio, Joubert, Rippon, Contesti, Reynolds, Voronov, Bush, Bacchini

    Wagner, Suzuki, Kostner, Gold, Leonova, Murakami, Sotnikova, Marchei, Phaneuf, Silete, Lacoste, Meite

    D/R, T/T, B/L, D/C, B/H, P/M

    V/M, D/W, P/B, I/K, C/L, R/R
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    DobrinFan, if you're trying to predict the ultimate team winner, I suggest that you keep the placements of the individual singles skaters separate - as opposed to one combined men's placement and one combined women's placement per country.

    If I understand the rules correctly, each singles skater will receive his/her own placement points (from 12 for first place on down to 1 for last place).
    In other words, Takahashi and Kozuka each will receive separate placement points.
    [Pairs and dance couples will receive placement points from 12 on down to 7.]
    Okay, okay, but this will make things a lot harder my mind is going into overdrive

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    Quote Originally Posted by DianaSelene View Post
    I'm really surprised that Gachinski is going but not Tukt since I saw videos of Liza a few weeks ago and she looked pretty good while Gachinski is not doing well right now. And I'm REALLY surprised Sotnikova will go. I'm happy that she'll have another chance this year. I wonder why Sot is going instead of Liza... ISU didn't let her or Mishin decided to let her rest some more or Russia just decided to give Adelina another try?
    I don't think Liza is age eligible. Still Russia's chances dropped without V and T or even K and S. Japan is looking better and better. the USA has to find a second lady to back up Wagner. Send Alissa and see if she can redeem herself. if she bombs while it sounds mean - time for her to hit the books and may be do a few shows - Cinderella, a smurf whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkusNJ View Post
    NOPE...its gonna be Ashely and Gracie!!!

    http://www.isuresults.com/events/cat00027888.htm
    Wow they are really investing in Gracie. I would have liked to send Zhang to see if she could skate consistently for a third time this year. She has been pretty solid. It is a bit of a slap to Zawadia,, Gao, Zhang et al. It also suggests people aren't taking the team event as serious - almost like a farm team or develpment - how sad. Maybe it needs to be made aprt of the World championship?

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    Vanessa is the alternate. They might have picked Gracie over Caroline and Agnes, but not Vanessa.
    Caroline and Agnes must have declined.

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    I would like to chang my Prediction now
    Gold Japan
    Silver Usa
    Bronze Canada
    4th Russia
    5th Italy
    6th France

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    Wow they are really investing in Gracie. I would have liked to send Zhang to see if she could skate consistently for a third time this year. She has been pretty solid. It is a bit of a slap to Zawadia,, Gao, Zhang et al. It also suggests people aren't taking the team event as serious - almost like a farm team or develpment - how sad. Maybe it needs to be made aprt of the World championship?
    It's a great way to introduce her to international Senior competition without throwing her to the GP wolves...I am pretty sure she was asked before Z or Z.

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    I think Canada's fate is in the hands of Reynolds and Phaneuf. We pretty much know how the rest will fare (assuming that Duhamel and Radford keep up the good work). If Reynolds and Phaneuf surprise a few people, Canada is right in it with Japan.

    I am rooting for Italy to beat somebody!

    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    Vanessa is the alternate. They might have picked Gracie over Caroline and Agnes, but not Vanessa.

    Caroline and Agnes must have declined.
    Yeah, Caroline and Agnes (also Mirai) have not skated in two months. Gracie and Vanessa did Junior Worlds, so they might be better prepared to compete at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enlight78 View Post
    Here are placements base on the most recent scores;
    I don't mind your copying the Worlds/SB scores I compiled over at FSU but wish you had credited my effort (I notice you've edited out the SB scores of the skaters whose Worlds scores weren't their season bests): http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/show...&postcount=157

    Ranked in order of 2012 Worlds or Jr Worlds scores; SB scores included:

    MEN
    Chan CAN (266.11 Worlds 1st; SB 273.94 4CC 1st)
    Takahashi JPN (259.66 Worlds 2nd; SB 259.75 NHK 1st)
    Joubert FRA (SB 244.58 Worlds 4th)
    Amodio FRA (SB 243.03 Worlds 5th)
    Abbott USA (226.19 Worlds 8th; SB 238.82 GPF 5th)
    Contesti ITA (SB 224.89 Worlds 10th)
    Kozuka JPN (218.63 Worlds 11th; SB 235.02 NHK 2nd)
    Reynolds CAN (SB 217.20 Worlds 12th)
    Rippon USA (216.63 Worlds 13th; SB 221.55 4CC 4th)
    [Voronov RUS (SB 210.04 Worlds 17th) - WD due to injury & replaced by Maxim Kovtun]
    Bush RUS (SB 196.06 Jr Worlds 5th)
    ETA on April 11: Kovtun RUS 193.76 (JGP Final, 4th)
    Bacchini ITA (SB 170.11 Euros 16th)

    LADIES
    Kostner ITA (SB 189.94 Worlds 1st)
    Leonova RUS (SB 184.28 Worlds 2nd)
    Suzuki JPN (180.68 Worlds 3rd; SB 185.98 NHK 1st)
    Wagner USA (176.77 Worlds 4th; SB 192.41 4CC 1st)
    Murakami JPN (SB 175.41 Worlds 5th)
    Gold USA (171.85 Jr Worlds 2nd; SB 172.69 JGP EST 1st)
    Sotnikova RUS (168.45 Jr Worlds 3rd; SB 169.75 Russia GP 3rd)
    Marchei ITA (SB 150.10 Worlds 8th)
    Silete FRA (SB 148.18 Worlds 12th)
    Lacoste CAN (138.60 Worlds 16th; SB 148.48 Russia GP 8th)
    Phaneuf CAN (SB 147.47 4CC 8th)
    Meite FRA (SB 145.44 TEB GP 6th)

    PAIRS
    Takahashi/Tran JPN (SB 189.69 Worlds 3rd)
    Duhamel/Radford CAN (SB 185.41 Worlds 5th)
    Bazarova/Larionov RUS (183.68 Worlds 6th; 193.79 SB Euros)
    Denney/Coughlin USA (180.37 Worlds 8th; SB 185.42 4CC 2nd)
    Berton/Hotarek ITA (SB 168.16 Worlds 11th)
    Popova/Massot FRA (SB 139.98 Euros 8th)

    DANCE
    Virtue/Moir CAN (182.65 Worlds 1st; SB 183.34 GPF 2nd)
    Davis/White USA (178.62 Worlds 2nd; SB 188.55 GPF 1st)
    Pechalat/Bourzat FRA (SB 173.18 Worlds 3rd)
    Ilinykh/Katsalapov RUS (SB 161.00 Worlds 5th)
    Cappellini/Lanotte ITA (SB 160.62 Worlds 6th)
    Reed/Reed JPN (Worlds 24th FNR; SB 123.22 NHK 7th)

    Japan:11+6+10+8+12+7=54

    USA:8+4+9+7+9+11=48

    Canada:12+5+3+2+11+12=45

    Russia:3+2+11+6+10+9= 41

    Italy:7+1+12+5+8+8 =41

    France:10+9+4+1+7+10=41

    The teams seem to be evenly matched with most of them score in the low 40's: Its seams like T/T are given Japan the edge and how they perform will determine who gets gold or not.
    Thanks for doing the math!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    I don't think Liza is age eligible. Still Russia's chances dropped without V and T or even K and S. Japan is looking better and better. the USA has to find a second lady to back up Wagner. Send Alissa and see if she can redeem herself. if she bombs while it sounds mean - time for her to hit the books and may be do a few shows - Cinderella, a smurf whatever
    But if we go by worlds and euros rules, Sotnikova would not be eligible either. Shw was born one day late.

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    Predictions:
    Takahashi, Chan, Amodio, Kozuka, Abbott, Joubert, Rippon, Contesti, Reynolds, Voronov, Bush, Bacchini

    Sotnikova, Kostner, Suzuki, Leonova, Wagner, Gold, Murakami, Meite, Silete, Marchei, Lacoste, Phaneuf

    Takahashi/Tran, B/L, D/R, B/H, D/C, P/M

    V/M, D/W, P/B, I/K, C/L, R/R

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    wow i'm so surprised they're sending gracie. what a slap in the face to alissa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macy View Post
    wow i'm so surprised they're sending gracie. what a slap in the face to alissa.
    I love Alissa as much as any red-blooded American uber-fan. However, after back to back meltdowns at Challenge Cup and Worlds, it seems that she is in no shape to compete (physically and/or mentally).

    In addition, significant prize money is at stake. Sending her, IMHO, wouldn't be fair to the other USA team members.

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