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    Adam Rippon Needs Gracie Gold's Coach

    It seems to me that Adam could be a podium contender if he could just fix his triple Axel and get a reliable quad. His PCS already seem to be right up there.

    I think he should switch to Alexander Ouriashev as his coach, i.e. Adam needs a jump specialist to salvage his amateur career.

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    I don't think their personalities would mesh. Alex would chew up Adam and spit him out in one lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mskater93 View Post
    I don't think their personalities would mesh. Alex would chew up Adam and spit him out in one lesson.
    Maybe a little "tough love" is exactly what Adam needs. His delusionally upbeat interview after his awful FS shows that Adam needs a reality check. Jason and Yuka are just too nice and reaffirming.

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    Who else has Alexander Ouriashev coached? Can Gracie's huge jumps also be a function of her natural abilities as a jumper? Some people simply get more spring and lift to their jumps than others...

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    I wonder if there is a fashion in coaching styles and we are currently (in the US) in a soft-love coaching era. I only say this because of Yuka and Jason as well as seeing the way Christy Krall showers Patrick with praise even after some bad mistakes. I'm sure she's a great coach, judging by his results, but those scenes are embarrassing, IMO. I prefer the John Nicks/Frank Carroll professional poker face where it takes a great performance to get a "Better" and a smile.

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    Former students of Alex Ouriashev: Deedee Leng (former Junior Ladies Champion), Megan Oster (former Junior Ladies silver medalist, JGP medalist, Novice Ladies Medalist), Megan Hyatt (Junior Ladies silver medalist, JGP medalist, Novice Ladies Medalist), Jason Thomas (Novice and Junior Men Nationals), Maverick Egueia (sp) (Phillipines Junior Men's Champion), Natalie Mecher (Juvenile-Junior medalist, NACS winner, JGP Medalist), Maria Papas (former Greek National Champion)

    Alex teaches with an interesting technique that "encourages" a skater's natural spring. Gold went from 2Lz to a 2A and full set of triples in under a year when she went to work with Alex. Leng had the same phenomenon working with him - only a 2Lz and then suddenly a month or two after working with him, she had a 2A, 3S, and 3T and 3Lo, 3F, and 3Lz not far after. Oster, Hyatt, and Thomas all worked with him on their jumps and he helped Hyatt keep most of her triples even as she reached 5'9" off skates.

    eta: Alex also gave Gracie the disappointed face when she came off the ice at Nationals for falling on a 2A and didn't crack a smile until her scores came up...he is definitely not a squishy, touchy feely kind of coach....
    Last edited by mskater93; 04-02-2012 at 11:35 AM. Reason: Alex's Coaching Style

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    Wow, Mskater93, you are an encyclopedia of knowledge! I'm impressed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mskater93 View Post
    I don't think their personalities would mesh. Alex would chew up Adam and spit him out in one lesson.
    My impression is that is exactly what Rippon needs, LOL.

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    Adam's reluctance to train in the gym was mentioned in a recent article. Not good.

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    Adam need to STOP changing coaches. He's had three coaches in the past 6 years and he's in the same spot he was when he left Morosov. If Mr. Triple Axel (Orser) can't give him a reliable triple axel, maybe the possibility exits that it's not his assorted coach's fault that he doesn't have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Adam's reluctance to train in the gym was mentioned in a recent article. Not good.
    If this is true, than Alex would kick him out after a couple weeks. Of his highly talented high level skaters, he would not put up with that.

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    Ugh, I think it's so pointless to argue that "so-and-so" needs "so-and-so's" coach.

    First of all, coaches and skaters need to be compatible on various metrics like personality, training style, work ethic, goals, etc. In many cases, you don't know if a student-coach relationship will work until it's been tried at least for a couple of months (or through a competition at the very least).

    Also, just because one coach did well with one skater doesn't make that coach a miracle worker. Correlation does not imply causation, people. Yes, Gold's coach could be the most brilliant coach for jumping technique, but Gold also likely has an inherent jumping ability which allowed her to progress quickly.

    It's funny because when a skater does well, people start saying that other skaters need that skater's coach as if he/she is a miracle worker - even if people haven't been talking about that coach before and that coach is relatively unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Adam's reluctance to train in the gym was mentioned in a recent article. Not good.
    This is interesting considering the hit Orser took when Adam left him. It followed shortly after YuNa left so gossip and internet speculation as it is had Orser the bad guy in the situation. Reading this thread reminded me of something hinted at back when he split with Orser. Some quotes from both of them are in this Hersh interview:
    http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...for-orser.html

    I find Rippon´s skating has taken a huge step backwards and was honestly shocked to see him get off the ice at worlds and watch him hug his coaches seemingly happy with the skate he just gave.

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    I think Alex is the best coach in the state of IL. Yes he is a little nuts. If he sees you working hard the he will work with you & you will get the jumps.I think Alex is better than the so called great coaches.

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