Orser got used to Yuna's work ethic and finds Javi not disciplined enough about training too. See the common thread here with the champions -Yuna, Chan, and Takahashi? Yuka and Jason probably attracted the soft skaters because they are nurturing, but they don't have any tough one in their stable as a role model to spur the rest on. I know Lysacek and Chan have been very motivating for their training mates. And Yuna too, when she was around.