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Thread: Alissa Czisny plans to compete next season

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    Nice fighting words but those are the cliches of an athlete. Do you expect her to say she doesn't believe she can win again? I skate to lose. Life isn't fair. Alissa gets so much support from fans and then skaters like Flatt and Chan get dumped on. Its almost like if you are pretty it is okay to fall and get overmarked or whatever. One could argue Czisny is like Chan in respect to pcs but really she doesn't have the speed or command of the ice. And as much as people pick on Chan he can land a quad too bad he can't land a double axel (lol hee hee hee ha ha ha okay bad joke). Good for her if she wants to skate; she should prepare to win or lose though. And great about Mirai and CAroline and Gracie and...however someone has to win and someone has to be less successful. Alissa might come back to the top or be found at the bottom of the heap. Only time will tell. And yes, she probably needed some time off. I still can't believe she fell five times!!!! and was behind the Canadian lady at world's. She really needs to get it together.

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    Everyone was wrong to pick on Rachael last year and wrong again to pick on Alissa this year. They tried their best. We are not the ones out there on the ice.

    (That's my story and I'm sticking to it. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtsmith12 View Post
    Even though Rachael was injured at Worlds she still manged to place 11th. As oppsoed to Alissa who placed 22nd.
    Irrelevant really though. Neither a 12th (that is where Flatt finished, not 11th) or a 22nd will help the U.S regain 3 spots. Neither can be relied upon to help the U.S gain 3 spots, but atleast wtih Czisny there is medal winning potential if miracelously everything comes together. For Flatt there is none. That is why of the two Czisny will get more support, atleast there is something (medal potential but potential for disasester) as opposed to nothing (no medal potential and potential for disaester). On top of that Flatt has only regressed further since then in both performance and reputation with the judges. At this point she would be almost certain to come outside the top 12 at Worlds, even with one of her better outings. Atleast Czisny with a very mediocre and subpar, but not disaesterous showing, might still come in the 7th-10th range, and possibly contribute to the U.S getting 3 spots assuming her teammate does alot better.

    Frankly I dont think either have much of a future in the amateur side of the sport anyhow, so it is almost moot to compare them. Gold and Wagner are already earmarked for the 2 U.S spots to London and if either falter they will look to one of Zhang, a revived Nagasu, an improved Gao, or Agnes as next options. Czisny will find a very unfriendly U.S panel of judges just like Flatt this year, barring something spectacular on the grand prix circuit before that. I predict Czisny and Flatt both to finish far down the pack at Nationals next year.

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    Sorry, but I see NO potential for Czisny to medal at Worlds given the new competitive climate. Nearly all the top ladies are doing at least 3t/3t, while Czisny is lucky to land all her jumps in the SP with no 3/3. A 5-triple FS won't make it, either, not when many of the ladies are landing 6 or 7.

    Czisny said she was going to do 3f+3t and 2a+3t this season. But we never saw a real attempt at either, even in her better GP performances. Instead we saw meltdowns. Alissa is just not capable of venturing beyond the basic jumps she feels capable of landing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Czisny said she was going to do 3f+3t and 2a+3t this season. But we never saw a real attempt at either, even in her better GP performances. Instead we saw meltdowns. Alissa is just not capable of venturing beyond the basic jumps she feels capable of landing.
    I would think a 2A/3T would be a viable option, but as someone else said, she couldn't even land a 2A at Worlds.

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    I really like Alissa's sweet nature and good for her for coming back, but I am unsure if I want to see her at Worlds again unless she really pulls out all the stops next season and is confident in her jumping abilities. I am excited to see what Gracie will bring and I hope Ashley gets another shot at Worlds to get on the podium. I haven't always been a fan of Ashley's, but I really respect the way she gave 100% this season. I also hope to see Caroline deliver again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I do not see any merit in this post. It is very silly to be angry at a skater for a bad performance. It's not like the skaters screw up on purpose just to get our goats. Likewise, why wish anyone bad luck in the future?

    Last year I was highly critical of Phil Hersh (it's OK to wish Phil bad luck ) for trying to manufacture a story out of nothing. I was even more critical of the USFSA for letting Hersh bully them into a foolish response.

    Anyway, for whatever it's worth Rachael did come back at Nationals and skate a great long program, and I hope Alissa does, too.
    I'm angry at the judging panels for putting her in. She has no merit being in the top 2 for the kind of skates she did at Nats. As long as she does 2-3 triples in the LP, she will be #2. Hence, I don't want her to land a single triple in the future, just to be sure.
    I'm sure she didn't sabotage her SP and LP to get on anyone's nerve.

    I remember only a few people who were supportive after World. Mrs. P was one. I'm sure you said something about vile old Phil, but was there any "hope she comes back strong next year" like in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Sorry, but I see NO potential for Czisny to medal at Worlds given the new competitive climate. Nearly all the top ladies are doing at least 3t/3t, while Czisny is lucky to land all her jumps in the SP with no 3/3. A 5-triple FS won't make it, either, not when many of the ladies are landing 6 or 7.

    Czisny said she was going to do 3f+3t and 2a+3t this season. But we never saw a real attempt at either, even in her better GP performances. Instead we saw meltdowns. Alissa is just not capable of venturing beyond the basic jumps she feels capable of landing.
    In theory a skater who has won the Grand Prix final and who beat this years World Champion at Skate America does have a hypothetical chance at a World medal. I am not saying it will happen, in fact I am probably Czisny`s career to go down the drain and her to be down in about 6th place at Nationals next year. I was just explaining what others and the USFSA`s line of thinking probably was. Even if you want to argue she doesnt have any medal potential even at her best in any coming years, she definitely had medal potential in 2011 and 2012. Flatt never did, and post 2010 is no longer reliable either.

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    Oh my....well I love Alissa but good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    I'm angry at the judging panels for putting her in. She has no merit being in the top 2 for the kind of skates she did at Nats. As long as she does 2-3 triples in the LP, she will be #2. Hence, I don't want her to land a single triple in the future, just to be sure.
    I'm sure she didn't sabotage her SP and LP to get on anyone's nerve.

    I remember only a few people who were supportive after World. Mrs. P was one. I'm sure you said something about vile old Phil, but was there any "hope she comes back strong next year" like in this thread?
    I don't remember all of us being down on Rachael--there are quite a few of us who have trouble saying that any skater should find her way to the door and scram--but it's good that you have remained so loyal. Think of it: if Rachael even just skims a site like this, she sees your screen name and knows she has a fan. So you've redeemed the site no matter what the vote on Rachael was last year. And she redeemed herself. That long program was a delight to behold.

    I remember a lot of the anger being directed at Rachael's old coach, Tom Z, and deservedly so if he encouraged her to skate while injured. I had no sympathy for him, but this year I have great sympathy for Yuka and Jason. I'm worried about the fallout for them after three of their skaters...well, the best you can say about the guys is that they peaked at Nationals.

    I'm curious: when did you become a fan of Rachael's, and what sparked your admiration? (If you want to give out such details, that is.) I remember when I became a solid and forever fan of Michelle's, when she was twelve, at her first Seniors. I've seen early-teen footage of Rachael, and she had a very musical quality. That long program of hers to Brahms chamber music was a standout. Was that what pulled you in?
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    Good for her....but she simply can not place higher than 3rd at Nationals next year. Too much at stake, and she can't handle it. But after next year, who cares! If we get 3 Olympic/World spots I would be all for her getting on the team, in 2014! But NOT next year.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    I'm angry at the judging panels for putting her in.
    so take it out on them, don't wish ill on someone who skated however she did and they let it go through anyway.

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    I became a fan after 2009 W LP. Thought she would be able to hang out with the big girls in the future. She had this wholesome image that was very charming and she really went for everything after the first mistake.
    (Didn't watch any US figure skating since 2006 so I didn't even know who these girls were. Needless to say, both girls made quite an impression.)

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    OT, but Olympia is the nicest poster on GS.

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    Never in my life time have I seen a member of the US figure skating team finish 22nd. And I am not young by any means as I was there when Peggy Fleming won her gold in 1968.

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