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Thread: Gracie Gold will go senior in 2012-2013

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    Gracie Gold will go senior in 2012-2013

    Just something to note from a recent IN article:

    Gold intends to compete on the senior international circuit this fall, including at least one Grand Prix event.

    "That's the hope and plan," the Chicago area teen said. "I'm getting two new programs, and Scott will be doing both again. We haven't actually started yet, though, because of World Team Trophy."
    This is great news!

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    Yeah I think she has a great opportunity to win a national title next year if she can even skate like she did this season. At her age and skill level there's really no upside to staying a junior.

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    She is amazing.And she hasn't even reached her full potencial!She has things to improve and even with that her score is big..She has a great future) American next star indeed

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    I'd say Gracie went senior a few hours ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolymerBob View Post
    I'd say Gracie went senior a few hours ago.
    That's true!

    The last we heard though Gracie was undecided about doing Senior Int'l competitions. I guess WTT persuaded her to go for it!

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    The US ladies who refused to go to WTT, and thus let Gracie go, will rue the day, I predict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    The US ladies who refused to go to WTT, and thus let Gracie go, will rue the day, I predict.
    Haha, maybe. I do hope Ashley will finish highest from the US on Saturday, but I'm biased Either way this competition should be a confidence boost for Gracie who will no longer have 'first time as a senior' jitters in her GPs. (I'm pretty sure she'll get 2)
    Her going senior next year is yet another piece of non-news together with the 'muscled Ashley' thread But off-season is coming, so I guess we all need to find stuff to talk about. Of course she's going to go senior, if she wants to go to Olympics, it's time skate on the senior circuit.

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    Gracie should go to T&T's coach/choreographer and ask for programs. They make stunning programs for T&T year after year.
    My opinion about her hasn't changed. When I saw her at Nats, I remarked her jumps were just adequate. Sure, she can do hard combo, has no edge problem. But the quality isn't there. Look up the protocol at Nats, she had little GOE on her jumps (even at Nats)
    She will have no trouble keeping up on the TES side because her BV is higher than other girls.

    I suspect with the same skates next year, the USF will put Ashley/Alissa way ahead of Gracie. Gracie needs to assert herself as US #1 on Saturday.

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    The same Alissa who's butt hits the ice more then a zamboni?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    The same Alissa who's butt hits the ice more then a zamboni?
    At Nats, Alissa with a single Axel still got 63. With another step out, maybe she'd get 60-61. Definitely enough to be ahead.

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    Well hopefully over scoring Alissa will stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trewyn View Post
    Haha, maybe. I do hope Ashley will finish highest from the US on Saturday, but I'm biased Either way this competition should be a confidence boost for Gracie who will no longer have 'first time as a senior' jitters in her GPs. (I'm pretty sure she'll get 2)
    Her going senior next year is yet another piece of non-news together with the 'muscled Ashley' thread But off-season is coming, so I guess we all need to find stuff to talk about. Of course she's going to go senior, if she wants to go to Olympics, it's time skate on the senior circuit.
    This thread is more to update everyone on her intentions. As I said earlier, at Nationals she was pretty noncommittal on her plans. It's not a surprise she is moving up, but still worth noting and confirming.

    As for the Ashley muscle thread--it's all in good fun!

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    I didn't know she was noncommittal about her plans for next season, though I guess she wanted to wait until after Jr Worlds to commit to anything.

    True The forum should definitely be fun Next to all the drama sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlattFan View Post
    When I saw her at Nats, I remarked her jumps were just adequate. Sure, she can do hard combo, has no edge problem. But the quality isn't there. Look up the protocol at Nats, she had little GOE on her jumps (even at Nats)
    She will have no trouble keeping up on the TES side because her BV is higher than other girls.

    I suspect with the same skates next year, the USF will put Ashley/Alissa way ahead of Gracie. Gracie needs to assert herself as US #1 on Saturday.
    I disagree about her not "getting much GOEs for her jumps, even at Nationals". Don't forget, that even a +3 GOE across the board does not equate to 3 additional points unless it's a 3A or higher now (Yuna Kim rule). The only jump across two programs that netted a negative GOE was the 2A she fell on near the end of her LP when she had a lapse in concentration.

    She still scored decently in PCS at WTT, even as the first skater overall and with very limited international experience. She HAD to be nervous - it's her first Senior event...this will affect how she presents the program.

    Here's a look at the protocols with regards to jumps from Nationals for Gracie for anyone who cares to join this discussion (including judges' breakdowns):
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    3F+3T: Factored GOE:+0.8 (2, 0, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1)
    3Lz: Factored GOE: 0 (0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0, -2, -1)
    2A: Factored GOE: +0.64 (2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1)

    LP
    3Lz+3T: Factored GOE: +1.6 (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 2)
    2A+3T: Factored GOE: + 1.3 (2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 3, 2, 1)
    3Lo: Factored GOE: +1 (1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1)
    3F: Factored GOE: 0 (0, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0)
    3Lz: Factored GOE: +1.2 (2, 1, 1, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2, 1)
    2A: Factored GOE: -1.5 (Fall) (-3, -3, -3, -3, -3, -3, -3, -2, -3)
    3S+2T: Factored GOE: +0.7 (1, 0, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)

    I see a lot of + GOE all over the place with a smattering of negatives for something judges felt necessary to dock (a couple shakier landings and the fall).

    Flattfan, I don't understand your dismissive attitude of Gracie's skating - Gracie's got a LOT going for her and will only improve as she gains more experience and sets her goals for 2013 and beyond. If her trajectory continues, others are going to be looking up at her as the one to beat. I don't see Alissa's PCS staying high. Benefit of the doubt will be gone...

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    The hype she got prior to Nat and after Nat was ridiculous.
    You can go back and read the SP thread after Nat. People were gushing "Tonya-esque" "huge" "Midori" on her lutz.
    My reaction was: No no no, she was just adequate

    Nothing's dismissive about what I said. She's the best going forward, but she's certain no Miki, let alone Midori, when it comes to jumping ability. Read my posts again, I didn't say I would put the other girls in front of her, right? I'm just afraid the US judges will. Why are you so defensive? Goodness.

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