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    Blah Russian team

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    Didn't think it was possible but the 2009 team was far far superior to this 2012 one. Why are they at the WTT this year?

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    I'm disappointed with Adelina - she ain't have a champ's mindset..Gracie is really better. And the men field was....

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    Sotnikova doesn't have a champion mindset. Where is her passion? I don't know what Russia was thinking sending Kovtun and Bush! All teams will get some money and Russia is only doing this for the money they will get for participating - which is going to be whatever the last place team gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue
    I'm disappointed with Adelina - she ain't have a champ's mindset..Gracie is really better. And the men field was....
    Could people just give Adelina a break?

    She's 15 for god's sake, has a lot of pressure on her shoulders and difficulties to adjust to her changing body - nothing that's happening here or that happened throughout the season is a reason to write her off.

    And even if I'm absolutly glad for Gold and enjoy seeing her skate like this (and living up to the pressure that's put on her - poor girl!), that comparison is just way off.
    Where was Gold again the seasons when she seemed to have trouble with puberty? Oh, right, she didn't even make it out of the sectionals... while Adelina still won her 3rd national title this year.

    I really hope next season Adelina is going to live up to her potential again and kick all the naysayers butts!!

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    ^ so true. this is why I rarely watch juniors unless the skaters have already hit puberty. people put a lot of expectation on these young skaters and when they don't live up to their potential, the witch hunt starts. give it time and we will see if she can bounce back from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    Could people just give Adelina a break?

    She's 15 for god's sake, has a lot of pressure on her shoulders and difficulties to adjust to her changing body - nothing that's happening here or that happened throughout the season is a reason to write her off.

    And even if I'm absolutly glad for Gold and enjoy seeing her skate like this (and living up to the pressure that's put on her - poor girl!), that comparison is just way off.
    Where was Gold again the seasons when she seemed to have trouble with puberty? Oh, right, she didn't even make it out of the sectionals... while Adelina still won her 3rd national title this year.

    I really hope next season Adelina is going to live up to her potential again and kick all the naysayers butts!!
    Just another voice chiming in to agree. Adelina may survive puberty; she may not but as you point out when Gracie was struggling with it she couldn't do anything.

    In addition, Adelina never gives up on the performance or on the jumps no matter how many mistakes she has made and I appreciate that. I found it interesting that when Julia L was asked what skaters are her idols she said Adelina and when asked why she said because even though she has been struggling with the jumps she never gives up and that is the right attitude to have.

    Time will tell what's going to happen but I'm not ready to gang up on Adelina yet.

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    She is having struggles and that is not the issue as much as her skating like it is all misery and torture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Just another voice chiming in to agree. Adelina may survive puberty; she may not but as you point out when Gracie was struggling with it she couldn't do anything.

    In addition, Adelina never gives up on the performance or on the jumps no matter how many mistakes she has made and I appreciate that. I found it interesting that when Julia L was asked what skaters are her idols she said Adelina and when asked why she said because even though she has been struggling with the jumps she never gives up and that is the right attitude to have.

    Time will tell what's going to happen but I'm not ready to gang up on Adelina yet.
    Agreed! If there's one thing skating fans should have learned by now, it's "don't write anyone off."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    Could people just give Adelina a break?

    She's 15 for god's sake, has a lot of pressure on her shoulders and difficulties to adjust to her changing body - nothing that's happening here or that happened throughout the season is a reason to write her off.
    I'm not convinced Adelina's struggles are physical. Next to the other skaters, she still looks very small, I don't think she's really grown much if at all since the end of last season, maybe a few centimeters max, and her weight looks the same as before, the only difference I notice is that her face is a lot fuller. Plus we see her land her monster 3lz-3lo combo regularly and then botch her easier jumping passes. I think her issue is more mental/psychological to be honest, the pressure probably has something to do with it, and then maybe she's also suffering from lack of confidence do to the wild success her younger teammates Tuktamysheva and Lipnitskaya had this season. I'm sure she can bounce back, but it might be hard, and consistency/competition nerves could be something she always struggles with and she could end up having a Abbott-like career. Idk.

    Also, I don't think it's all doom and gloom in regards to the men. Gatchinski is very strong and capable of getting big scores when he's "on", he's just not particularly consistent at this point, but considering his age, this can likely be improved over time. Also, Kovtun has a lot of promise. His 3a is a rock and his 4t is pretty solid/consistent for a 16 year old boy. He's still growing into his body and is therefore a little bit awkward, but a few years down the road he could probably be quite a respectable skater on the World stage, could maybe even be winning European medals. He has all the goods he just needs more time in the oven.
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