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    Blah Russian team

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    Didn't think it was possible but the 2009 team was far far superior to this 2012 one. Why are they at the WTT this year?

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    I'm disappointed with Adelina - she ain't have a champ's mindset..Gracie is really better. And the men field was....

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    Sotnikova doesn't have a champion mindset. Where is her passion? I don't know what Russia was thinking sending Kovtun and Bush! All teams will get some money and Russia is only doing this for the money they will get for participating - which is going to be whatever the last place team gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue
    I'm disappointed with Adelina - she ain't have a champ's mindset..Gracie is really better. And the men field was....
    Could people just give Adelina a break?

    She's 15 for god's sake, has a lot of pressure on her shoulders and difficulties to adjust to her changing body - nothing that's happening here or that happened throughout the season is a reason to write her off.

    And even if I'm absolutly glad for Gold and enjoy seeing her skate like this (and living up to the pressure that's put on her - poor girl!), that comparison is just way off.
    Where was Gold again the seasons when she seemed to have trouble with puberty? Oh, right, she didn't even make it out of the sectionals... while Adelina still won her 3rd national title this year.

    I really hope next season Adelina is going to live up to her potential again and kick all the naysayers butts!!

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    ^ so true. this is why I rarely watch juniors unless the skaters have already hit puberty. people put a lot of expectation on these young skaters and when they don't live up to their potential, the witch hunt starts. give it time and we will see if she can bounce back from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li'Kitsu View Post
    Could people just give Adelina a break?

    She's 15 for god's sake, has a lot of pressure on her shoulders and difficulties to adjust to her changing body - nothing that's happening here or that happened throughout the season is a reason to write her off.

    And even if I'm absolutly glad for Gold and enjoy seeing her skate like this (and living up to the pressure that's put on her - poor girl!), that comparison is just way off.
    Where was Gold again the seasons when she seemed to have trouble with puberty? Oh, right, she didn't even make it out of the sectionals... while Adelina still won her 3rd national title this year.

    I really hope next season Adelina is going to live up to her potential again and kick all the naysayers butts!!
    Just another voice chiming in to agree. Adelina may survive puberty; she may not but as you point out when Gracie was struggling with it she couldn't do anything.

    In addition, Adelina never gives up on the performance or on the jumps no matter how many mistakes she has made and I appreciate that. I found it interesting that when Julia L was asked what skaters are her idols she said Adelina and when asked why she said because even though she has been struggling with the jumps she never gives up and that is the right attitude to have.

    Time will tell what's going to happen but I'm not ready to gang up on Adelina yet.

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    She is having struggles and that is not the issue as much as her skating like it is all misery and torture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Just another voice chiming in to agree. Adelina may survive puberty; she may not but as you point out when Gracie was struggling with it she couldn't do anything.

    In addition, Adelina never gives up on the performance or on the jumps no matter how many mistakes she has made and I appreciate that. I found it interesting that when Julia L was asked what skaters are her idols she said Adelina and when asked why she said because even though she has been struggling with the jumps she never gives up and that is the right attitude to have.

    Time will tell what's going to happen but I'm not ready to gang up on Adelina yet.
    Agreed! If there's one thing skating fans should have learned by now, it's "don't write anyone off."

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    Seriously. Gracie was a complete disaster at 15. She's amazing now. Adelina has already accomplished a lot and certainly has the ability to come back from a horrible season where she will have medaled in only 6 of her 7 events, winning 2.

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    I hope to see Adelina rebound next year!

    But if Kovtun and Bush are the best men's team Russia can field, I hope old man Plushenko can bionic his way to Worlds next year.

    And I&K do not at this moment look like a medal in Sochi...they need to put in some serious work this summer.

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    My worry with Adelina's struggles is that the Russian federation will suddenly decide she needs to switch to Morozov! I like what Elena Vodorezova has done with her.

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    There have been a lot of moments where I/K haven't looked like a medal in Sochi. Worlds 2011, Worlds 2012, some grand prix events - I think their tech placed them below a Chinese team once and COR 2010 where they only medaled because of three withdrawls, Russian nationals 2011 - lost to Khokhlova/Andreev in Free dance - many many moments.
    Last edited by gmyers; 04-19-2012 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    But if Kovtun and Bush are the best men's team Russia can field, I hope old man Plushenko can bionic his way to Worlds next year.
    They're not, which is why I don't know why Russia was so keen in sending them. Good experience to be skating with the big boys but still. Menshov just posted a 221 at his senior B this past weekend and even Bariev has a 210 from his senior B from earlier. But all of them are just inconsistent and they really need to start working on their PCS.

    Plushenko gonna have to go to worlds next year otherwise this could be a disaster if Russia has to send Gachinski and he can't manage a top 10 placement....their other men, forget about it. They wont be placing in the top 10 for a while if ever.

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    I just hope Russia has a spot for men is Sochi! I think they are guaranteed one as host.

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