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    Ice Dance: changes accepted by ISU Congress + new scales of values

    New today on ISU website:

    (A) ISU Communication No. 1738 (link to sixteen-page PDF: http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/p...0.html?id=1086)

    Ice Dance - Changes in Special Regulations and Technical Rules accepted by the 54th ISU Congress
    22 June 2012

    I. Some changes in Special Regulations and Technical Rules accepted by the 54th ISU Congress

    II. Requirements for Technical Rules with ongoing validity, effective July 1st, 2012

    III. Part of the requirements for Technical Rules for Short Dance season 2013/14**

    IV. Glossary of terms

    [**For discussion of 2013/14 SHORT DANCE, see pp. 13-14 of the PDF.
    SENIOR
    ~ Rhythm: Quickstep -- or Quickstep plus one or two of the following Rhythms: Foxtrot, Charleston, Swing.
    ~ Pattern Dance Elements: Two (2) Sections of Finnstep skated one after the other, Section 1 (Steps # 1-33) followed by Section 2 (Steps # 34-70), with Step # 1 skated on the Judges’ side.
    JUNIOR
    ~ Rhythm: Quickstep -- or Quickstep plus one of the following Rhythms: Foxtrot, Charleston.
    ~ Pattern Dance Elements: Junior: Two (2) Sequences of Quickstep, either skated one after the other or separately. Step #1 of each Sequence must be skated on a different side of the ice surface.]

    (B) ISU Communication No. 1739 (link to seven-page PDF is here: http://www2.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/p...0.html?id=1087)

    Ice Dance Scales of Values as of July 2012
    22 June 2012

    1. Scales of Values for Pattern Dances (with key point procedure)

    2. Scales of Values for Pattern Dances (without key point procedure)

    3. Scales of Values for Required Elements
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    Other than GOE's and base values for all the pattern dances that are new to the list, the one GOE difference is the scoring for the new

    Choreographic Dance Lift
    ChLi -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3
    -0.1 -0.1 -0.1 0.2 0.3 0.8 1.3
    It's interesting that there is no difference in the deduction for screwing it up for -1, -2, -3.

    From the other document, so far the biggest change is that they are going to go after people who screw up their timing to hit the key point descriptions in the Pattern Dance part of the SD fairly aggressively in GOE:

    Not holding Edges/Steps for required number of beats for one or both partners:
     from one Edge/Step up to 10% of Steps of the Pattern Dance Element
    +1
     for more than 10% and up to 25% of Steps of the Pattern Dance Element
    0
    And a good deal of verbiage that I have to chew through, which essentially sets up the Choreographic Lift, and how you tell it from the non choreographic lifts.

    This will lose you a GOE on your twizzles

    Generally more than two arm length between partners
    Decrease 1 grade
    The following will increase your GOE in the 2nd step sequence:

    Second Step Sequence (Free Dance) performed at an obviously different skating tempo than first Step Sequence
    1 grade
    Doing a dance lift to the music will increase your GOE:
    Dance Lift is creative and enhances the choreography of the program
    Increase 1 grade
    And

    In chart of Adjustments to Program Components:
     in column Interpretation/Timing: delete “violation of music restrictions (Short Dance**) (with a maximum total of -2.0)” and related details,
     in column Composition/Choreography: delete “Transitional Dance Lift(s)/Spin reflect character of the music/dance: +0.5 (in total)”.
    I'll have to read through this more carefully later--
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Other than GOE's and base values for all the pattern dances that are new to the list, the one GOE difference is the scoring for the new [Choreographic Dance Lift]

    It's interesting that there is no difference in the deduction for screwing it up for -1, -2, -3.

    Ah, I see. Because the base mark is only 0.2, so there's no room to distinguish negative grades without getting into hundredths of a point.

    Basically, if you do it acceptably, you get 0.2. If you do it recognizably but with flaws, you get half of that (0.1). And if you screw it up so badly that it isn't even called as an element, you get nothing.

    The base value is negligible, but if you do it very well you can add a full point or more to your total score.

    Now, let me go to Communication 1721 and find out exactly what a Choreographic Dance Lift is.
    Dance Lift of up to 10 (ten) seconds performed after all the other required Dance Lifts. The Choreographic Dance Lift will be awarded a fixed Base Value and evaluated by the Judges in Grade of Execution only.
    Looking at the well-balanced program rules, it seems there are choices about whether or not to use this kind of lift at junior and senior levels. I haven't studied the dance rules closely yet.

    The point is that here is an opportunity to do a lift that shows off something your team can do especially well and/or that enhances the program theme, without worrying about levels. The place to earn points is on positive GOE. It's not a lot of points, but it's an addition to another short lift instead of one long lift for levels. So it'll be worth doing if you can do short lifts and choreographic lifts well and struggle with the longer lifts and/or higher levels.

    And novices are supposed to do one.
    Last edited by gkelly; 06-22-2012 at 01:24 PM.

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    Base value of .2 is so stupid. The only element that should have such a meaningless base value is a single toeloop.

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    Well, dance had transitional lifts and transitional spins that got you zero points, period, but were identified to make sure you didn't get penalized for an extra element for doing them, and could conceivably add to your PCS transitions mark. 0.2 to 1 point is better than nothing or a penalty, I suppose

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