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    what music should Patrick Chan skate to next year??

    for his sp I would LOVE to see him skate to BOLERO go crazy! wild! passionate!
    Watch this bolero sp from plushenko, I think patrick could do even better ( hard but possible) . But this plushenko performance of Bolero is surely is the greatest BOLERO performance of all time WOW!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwFjO...eature=mh_lolz

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    A little bit off topic here, but after watching that video of Plushenko, I was looked for other videos and found this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVK8Cq2LLL4

    Apparently he was a replacement at the 1998 Worlds, where he medaled (bronze) at his debut. His SP was to Concerto de Aranjuez, and the commentators provided a bit of insight into Plushenko's life at the time. Wow, Mishin did a lot for Plushenko - he paid for his airline ticket to Worlds as a back-up when the Russian Federation did not. And Plushenko wanted to win competitions 'cause his family was very poor at the time, and Mishin had to pay their rent.

    Anyways, sorry back to the topic. I'll like to see Patrick skate to Tango de Roxanne!

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    Bolero? The greatest surely belong to Torvill and Dean? Although I must admit Plushenko is simply incredible.

    Patrick need to stay away from pretty soft classical music if he really want to improve his artistry. Go for something more original, something he can call his own and stay away from someone else tried and tested music (aka cliched classical 101 greatest hits!). IMO, he has yet to produce a truly stunning signature program that people will pay to go and see, despite they are well scored performances. This is something he'd need as a 2 times world champion who's now probably after popularity (for sponsorships) more than prestige now. He is an astute student of figure skating, graduated top of the class, but he need to consider what skating means to him personally, even take a few risks here and there, experimenting and to have fun.

    Something with a bit more originality, creativity, fully realized conceptual themes that goes beyond the surface of costumes. Something with greater variance in the emotional tones and risk of highs and lows, that can generate wild fan fare, raucousness that makes far great impression beyond the technical.

    'Less is More' can be the highest form of artistic realization (love the Elegie in E Flat Minor by Buttle) , but there must be 'more' to begin with and in my opinion we haven't seen enough of the 'more' from Patrick Chan yet.

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    I think "Bolero" would be an excellent SP choice for Chan! It does not matter that Torvill & Dean own it, because they are ice dancers. I like Plushenko´s Bolero a lot, but it is very much from different era and in my opinion Chan could express most of Plushenko´s hand gestures with his feet.

    Chan´s LP could be "Caravan". The way he floates on the ice would really fit this music. He could use this version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5loTx0_KDE

    and find additional material here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJQyCYa8vY

    I don´t share the enthusiasm for something new, because EVERY choreography to any music is new. What matters is the fact who is skating to the music....
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    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Bolero? The greatest surely belong to Torvill and Dean? Although I must admit Plushenko is simply incredible.

    Patrick need to stay away from pretty soft classical music if he really want to improve his artistry. Go for something more original, something he can call his own and stay away from someone else tried and tested music (aka cliched classical 101 greatest hits!). IMO, he has yet to produce a truly stunning signature program that people will pay to go and see, despite they are well scored performances. This is something he'd need as a 2 times world champion who's now probably after popularity (for sponsorships) more than prestige now. He is an astute student of figure skating, graduated top of the class, but he need to consider what skating means to him personally, even take a few risks here and there, experimenting and to have fun.

    Something with a bit more originality, creativity, fully realized conceptual themes that goes beyond the surface of costumes. Something with greater variance in the emotional tones and risk of highs and lows, that can generate wild fan fare, raucousness that makes far great impression beyond the technical.

    'Less is More' can be the highest form of artistic realization (love the Elegie in E Flat Minor by Buttle) , but there must be 'more' to begin with and in my opinion we haven't seen enough of the 'more' from Patrick Chan yet.
    Well said. I totally agree with you. It's time for Patrick to take a risk and try an unknown music!

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    Bolero and Tango are used enough in FS. Plushenko, Lysacek etc. Patrick aslo already skated to this Tango. He needs smth new, I agree with Aprilsowy - it's time to try and take a risk.

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    Speaking of taking risk, Chan may consider the following:
    1. Go to Nikolai Morozov and get a hip-hop program like Daisuke's famous Swan Lake. What I'm getting at is the rhythm and energy as shown in the step sequence of Yagudin's Winter and Daisuke's Swan Lake, something Chan hasn't demonstrated in a competitive program.
    2. Go to David Wilson and get a soulful program like Jeffrey Buttle's Nagoygatsi. What I'm getting at is the prolonged glide and emotional expression as shown in the transition of Daisuke's "In the Garden of Souls" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...y9ZyscQ#t=117s) and Jeffrey's Nagoygatsi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...70n84Tw#t=124s). The difficulty of those "simple" moves is: (1) One cannot cheat at the timing. A perfect synchronization with the music is required. (2) All attention is on how well one can use his whole body (face, arms, torso, everything) to express the music/mood. (3) Any tiny wobble of the feet is plainly detectable. No hiding behind quick feet, almost like naked in front of spotlight.
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    Some suggestions

    Led Zeppelin's "Moby Dick"
    "Vltava" from Bedřich Smetana Ma Vlast symphonic poem
    Tan Dun compositions for the movie Hero
    Jupiter, Bringer of Jollity by Gustav Holst
    "Escape to India" from the Kundun soundtrack, by (interestingly enough) Phillip Glass

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