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    johnny 80, your some statements make even an avid Yunafan like me .
    Please calm down.

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    Some skill is required to hijack a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'etoile View Post
    Some skill is required to hijack a thread.
    Yes, so back to the topic of this thread.....I hope Hanyu continues to improve-I really enjoyed him this season!

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    Oh my goodness guys, let's not start bashing on Orser now. He may not be all that great but good sportsmanship is always important. ^__^ Anyway.
    Even after like 2 weeks of thinking about this, I still don't see how this could help Yuzuru any. Like honestly, even after reading all the posts on this thread and the thoughts on other people's blogs and trying to reason it out in my head, I don't see the logic behind this change. Maybe it won't be absolutely detrimental to Yuzuru; for that, only time can tell. But why initiate it in the first place? I think Nanami was doing a perfectly fine job of getting this 17 year old prodigy to improve by leaps and bounds in the past few years. If it was Yuzuru's agency (imagining that he has one), or the JSF, that forced this change, I really need to question their sanity. Aside from the fact that Orser might be "a bigger name" coach, there's no real reason to make the switch. Even if Yuzuru will be training in Canada, which is the location of the next WC, it's really not going to give him much of and advantage. Plus the Olympics are not going to be in Canada, so the change makes no sense.

    There's a saying that goes "don't change horses midstream". Of course Nanami is not a horse, but it's the same basic concept. Why change something that's working fine and take the risk of it making things worse? The whole shenanigan just seems reaaaal funny to me. And I still doubt those people who say Yuzuru or Nanami initiated the change themselves. It goes against every grain of my being and it goes against everything I see when he skates and during the K&C and on documentaries about him and it goes against everything he said about Nanami and nope it just doesn't seem right.

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    Woah, gone for a few days and a lot has happened. I'm really surprised to hear this news. While I'm not against the idea of Hanyu leaving Abe--although it does sadden me a bit as they seem very close (and Pooh Bear...)--I don't think Orser is the coach who will really help Hanyu improve in the areas I think he could use improvement on, which is in the unattractive looseness to his skating, although his skating skills are improved from where they were the previous year. He was looser and sloppier, particularly in his stroking, than he is now, but there is still room for improvement and I'm skeptical if Orser is the best coach for the job here. I wish them the best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l'etoile View Post
    Some skill is required to hijack a thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by chloepoco View Post
    Yes, so back to the topic of this thread.....I hope Hanyu continues to improve-I really enjoyed him this season!
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    Oh my goodness guys, let's not start bashing on Orser now.
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    I wish them the best of luck.
    These comments sum it up for me.

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    I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suezeeq View Post
    Oh my goodness guys, let's not start bashing on Orser now. He may not be all that great but good sportsmanship is always important. ^__^ Anyway.
    Even after like 2 weeks of thinking about this, I still don't see how this could help Yuzuru any. Like honestly, even after reading all the posts on this thread and the thoughts on other people's blogs and trying to reason it out in my head, I don't see the logic behind this change. Maybe it won't be absolutely detrimental to Yuzuru; for that, only time can tell. But why initiate it in the first place? I think Nanami was doing a perfectly fine job of getting this 17 year old prodigy to improve by leaps and bounds in the past few years. If it was Yuzuru's agency (imagining that he has one), or the JSF, that forced this change, I really need to question their sanity. Aside from the fact that Orser might be "a bigger name" coach, there's no real reason to make the switch. Even if Yuzuru will be training in Canada, which is the location of the next WC, it's really not going to give him much of and advantage. Plus the Olympics are not going to be in Canada, so the change makes no sense.

    There's a saying that goes "don't change horses midstream". Of course Nanami is not a horse, but it's the same basic concept. Why change something that's working fine and take the risk of it making things worse? The whole shenanigan just seems reaaaal funny to me. And I still doubt those people who say Yuzuru or Nanami initiated the change themselves. It goes against every grain of my being and it goes against everything I see when he skates and during the K&C and on documentaries about him and it goes against everything he said about Nanami and nope it just doesn't seem right.
    THank you very much for this comment! (and OS168 too)

    You summary everything I feel, I say after found out that he now has his own website that I will miss Pre agent Yuzuru, I never know that things I fear will come this quick.

    for me, It's hard to feel the same about him after this news is released; it just destroy what I used to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
    I'm wondering what's the environment for Daisuke Takahashi's training? Shouldn't Takahashi be having many more adoring fans and reporters in Japan? After all, they've followed Takahashi around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
    While Hanyu is a hope of Japan and a new rising star of Japanese FS, I don't think he is as popular as Takahashi right now, maybe he will be in the future, but not now. Takahashi is extremely popular among fs fans and has a lot of passionate and devoted fans who follow him everywhere he goes, and becoming more and more popular now among casual watchers. But when it comes to popularity, I must say Mao is really exceptional. She is more than a figure skater in Japan. She is an idol of Japan. In this area, no Japanes skater can't touch her, Midori, Shizuka, Miki and Yuka, even these ladies champions can't touch her. She has somthing that she was naturally born with, that people can't help love . And generally in Japan ladies fs is more popular than mens fs.
    What I want to say here is : I don't think Hanyu has urgent need to get away from fans and media at present.
    Last edited by Hanaka; 05-04-2012 at 09:50 AM.

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    Am I close to some truth to say that Mao represents an ideal while Daisuke is a guilty pleasure for his many devoted and passionate Aunties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFiguring View Post
    Am I close to some truth to say that Mao represents an ideal while Daisuke is a guilty pleasure for his many devoted and passionate Aunties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
    I suspect it's more of an ice time issue. One of the reasons he did so many shows after the tsunami was because it got him ice time, and we've heard that the popularity of the sport has led to overcrowding of rinks in general/less ice time for the elite (I recall Takakashi mentioning this once).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I haven't commented on this change, but is it possible that one of the motivators for the change is similar to one of Yu Na's motivations? Perhaps he wants to get away from adoring fans and reporters while he is training?
    He comes off as someone who enjoys the limelight. I think he or the JSF is more attracted to dedicated skating facilities. I keep reading about how it's difficult for Japanese skaters to get time to practice in domestic ice rinks during non-Olympic years. I imagine the damage from the earthquake didn't help matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treeloving View Post
    THank you very much for this comment! (and OS168 too)

    You summary everything I feel, I say after found out that he now has his own website that I will miss Pre agent Yuzuru, I never know that things I fear will come this quick.

    for me, It's hard to feel the same about him after this news is released; it just destroy what I used to believe.
    LOL Thanks (:

    Quote Originally Posted by ImaginaryPogue View Post
    I suspect it's more of an ice time issue. One of the reasons he did so many shows after the tsunami was because it got him ice time, and we've heard that the popularity of the sport has led to overcrowding of rinks in general/less ice time for the elite (I recall Takakashi mentioning this once).
    Well I don't see how the ice time has affected any of the other amazing Japanese skaters. Doesn't Daisuke train in Osaka, Japan? I think that might be a private rink because it's part of the university but I'm sure if Yuzuru wanted to he could find something similar. And Mao trains mostly in Japan too. So does Kanako... And Miki... And Akiko... and Takahiko. They all travel abroad sometimes but their main coach is still Japanese and they still train in Japan. I think if ice time was the only issue, Yuzuru could easily find some other rink besides Sendai to travel to which would be much cheaper than going overseas. I don't know if Nanami would be willing to travel there with him, but I doubt that she would leave her star pupil if she had a choice.

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