07-21-2012, 07:13 PM
Canadian skaters have also signed up to compete at Skate Detroit and the Lake Placid dance event next week, as well as Skate Indy (Pairs) and Glacier Falls the week after that.
07-21-2012, 07:13 PM
I have no idea how many competitions there are in either country. We've only mentioned a handful of big competitions in this thread. Skate Canada requires that national team members participate in at least one of the top level summer comps, either in Canada or the US. There is a list of events and Liberty is one of the designated comps. That's why so many Canadian kids go to Liberty. Thornhill is on the USFSA'S list so we see lots of US kids at Thornhill.
Originally Posted by Jammers
The junior skaters usually have better performances at the summer comps than the senior skaters because the international season for juniors starts at the end of August. Those skaters who are looking to get JGP assignments need to show they're ready to go and turn in a good skate.
07-21-2012, 07:19 PM
There are very few US skaters on the final Thornhill entry list. I see only Alexe Gilles (training in Canada, so may be planning to represent Canada) and the new Senior dance team Aranow / Brubaker.
07-21-2012, 08:22 PM
One problem in Canada has been the scheduling. In many years the Thornhill and Quebec competitions ( not this year thankfully ) have been on the same week. A factor like that dilutes the quality of the field. If they were held in different weeks, I would not be surprised if a number of skaters would choose to compete at both events, increasing competition quality immediately.
Many years the 3 biggest summer comps ( Thornhill, Quebec and BC ) have all been held on the same week.)
Really if I were Skate Canada I would schedule the events differently so that both the easterners and westerners get an early summer comp to go to ( before the entry deadline of the first JGP ) and one a little later ( more for late JGP and senior B consideration )
I know the individual sections ( except for Minto which is organized by the Minto Skating Club ) organize the competitions but Skate Canada should step in and make sure the scheduling of the competitions makes sense.
The other problem is the lack of event finals ( Thornhill excepted from pre-novice to junior ) where there are so many entries that the ladies have to be separated in different groups.
To me even the juveniles and pre-juveniles need event finals. Right now the only time that the best juveniles and pre-juvs within a section are guaranteed to compete against each other is at sectionals.
Too often our ladies compete in diluted fields where it does not take much to win the field. That is poor preparation for the international circuit.
Last edited by nadster; 07-22-2012 at 01:02 AM.
07-21-2012, 09:45 PM
This year, Thornhill and BC Summerskate are being held at the same time.
07-21-2012, 09:51 PM
IMO, this is the primary reason why our girls are struggling internationally and it is only applicable to the Ladies' events. For the other three disciplines, there are not enough entries to make more than one group so the Men, Pairs and Dance are always competing against the best skaters in their discipline. If all you need to win your group is one or two triples, that's all you will learn.
Originally Posted by nadster
07-22-2012, 07:52 PM
CANADIAN SKATERS ENTERED SKATE DETROIT 7/24-28:
Gabrielle Anne CORMIER
Kirsten MOORE-TOWERS / Dylan MOSCOVITCH
Taylor STEELE / Rob SCHULTZ
Margaret PURDY / Michael MARINARO
Brittany JONES / Ian BEHARRY
Hayleigh BELL / Alistair SYLVESTER
Dylan CONWAY / Dustin SHERRIFF-CLAYTON
Mary ORR / Anthony FURIANO
Shalena RAU / Phelan SIMPSON
07-22-2012, 08:57 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl
07-23-2012, 11:07 AM
First of all I am happy to see many junior and senior skaters in Canada doing the American competitions this year, more so IMO than in other years ( although a sizeable amount of Canadian skaters have always taken that option ).
My main concern is the lack of quality ( key word is quality ) opportunites for our novice and lower skaters to compete.
The juniors and seniors don't have to adjust their programs for US standards.
OTOH, the Canadian and American rules for the lower levels are different so the lower level skaters would understandably not want to compete in the US where requirements are different.
This is why it is even more important at the lower levels to have event finals. If the Canadian skaters have to wait till junior level to compete in quality competitions, the battle would be lost. Only by having event finals will our lower level ladies get the quality competitions they deserve which encourage an environment of the skaters constantly pushing each other.
Also holding competitions at the same time does not make sense especially when the 2 venues involved are reasonably close.
07-23-2012, 01:05 PM
In addition to the Canadian seniors and juniors competing at Skate Detroit, there are also more than 30 Canadian novice ladies and two Canadian men, as well as a few intermediate (pre-novice) and juvenile ladies and men.
07-23-2012, 03:49 PM
Maybe Canada should go to the US, Russia and Japan and offer to take their second string???? Makarova and the Polina's aren't that bad to represent Canada. Could even sneak in for top ten?
07-23-2012, 05:39 PM
Wicked Yankee Girl
Don't look now, but Alexe Gilles will be skating at the Thornhill competition. It will be interesting to see whether she lists herself as competing for the Scarborough club, considering her sister Piper is teamed with Paul Poirier in dance and competes for Scarborough.
I would guess that Alexe will be trying to qualify for Canadian Nationals pretty soon...
Of course, she's more like US 3rd or 4th string, and the US first string isn't that strong these days...
07-23-2012, 06:35 PM
My understanding is that Alex is training in Toronto, but I don't know if she's at Scarborough or one of the other clubs. She's also scheduled to skate at the Scarborough Gala next week as a "guest skater".
07-23-2012, 07:47 PM
Canada can take Makarova, but Russia won't give away the Polinas - they're still pretty good.
Originally Posted by Skater Boy
07-23-2012, 10:30 PM
There's still another Polina---Polina Edmunds in the US (her mother is Russian). Edmunds recently landed 3z+3t AND 3f+3t in a summer competition, scoring 114.22 in the FS. She should be JGP bound.