07-30-2012, 09:38 AM
I think Hanyu definitely deserves much more respect from adults, both as a person and as a skater.
But the fact we haven’t seen any famous choreographer working with him yet is even more scary. If you notice Tuktamisheva, who is considered a top skater by her federation and is younger that Yuzu , has two SP and two LP this year choreographed by Wilson and Dickson.
If the real goal is to stop his amazing trajectory of talent because he’s too young to be a contender in Sochi, they’re doing a very good job unfortunately.
07-30-2012, 09:47 AM
I thought Wilson was doing Hanyu's choreo - am I wrong?
07-30-2012, 10:14 AM
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Huh... some videos are up on youtube now:
I hoped Hanyus new SP would be online already, but it's that trash of Ex again... honestly, I didn't dislike Hanyu changing to Orser, and I was rather excited about Browning and Buttle doing his choero, but... that Ex sucks big time. I'm really getting worried now, I swear I hate conspiracy theories but if that doesn't make the thought of those canadians wanting to take Patrick Chans rival out of the game cross your mind than I don't know. Yeah, that's not how it is, but it sure as hell looks like it.
Okay, on to better things... highlight of these videos up till now is definitly Adelina for me. I mean - f' yeah! That programm is so much fun to watch, and she manages to look cute, grown up and beautiful and even sexy altogether! (Orser/Buttle/Browning, did you see? It's possible to throw in some sex appeal without ruining a skater...) And she seems to have so much fun - even with this mistakes on her jumps, she completly stole the spotlight. Just keep that fire and glow for the competitive programms, and Adelina will be tough to beat! She's got speed and power, great range of movements, grace and beautiful lines, huge jumps, musicality, great spirals... oh, and on a side note: she's developing into one of the most stunning female skaters I have ever seen Well, okay, I better stop gushing over her... I'm just very glad to see her like that when she had a 'disappointing' season (no, I don't think at all this word really fits, but some people who love to jump to conclusions were pretty much already writing her off, so...)
The other programm I really liked was Kozukas, to my own suprise. I'm usually not a fan of his (but for his Spread Eagles definitly!) but that was beautiful to watch.
Hopefully the rest of the programms will be up soon
07-30-2012, 10:33 AM
Is Buttle doing Hanyu's SP and LP?
I have a chance to see Hanyu at the Mariposa gala but its quite a drive on a friday night.
07-30-2012, 11:41 AM
Hello everyone, I'm new here
Just writing to say that Hanyu's FS is going to be choreographed by Wilson, as expected by many. Brian Orser was interviewed for the japanese skating book Cutting Edge that came out a couple of days ago (there are also a few pictures of him, Hanyu and Tracy Wilson working together in Toronto) and he has basically confirmed this, saying that Wilson is very excited at the thought of working with Hanyu.
I think it's too early to talk about conspiracy. I didn't particularly like the whole changing coach affair, but up until now there hasn't been any hint that his technique has gotten worse, considering that he's still slowly recovering from his injury. His basic skating skills have changed for the better already, his stroking looks much more effortless than it was before. It was unlucky that in the two EXes that were broadcast he didn't skate clean, but by reading twitter reports it's clear that he's also skated many clean programs, that his 4S has gotten better, so much that he did it solo many times and once in sequence with a 3A under spotlights. He's landed 4T-3A at least 3 times during the past two weeks. It seems like he never fell during shows last summer but he did, as much as he does now.
As for his programs, that's another question. I agree with all of you, his EX is trash. Though to be honest the atmosphere is not much different than his Vertigo EX, which was choreographed by his former coach, but had him shaking his hips and stroking his body in leather pants, at age fifteen. Was that supposed to look innocent? I think it's only hitting us harder now because the program was choreographed by Kurt and we were expecting something great The point is, I think he's enjoying himself, enjoying the chance of looking cooler, more grown up. He's almost eighteen, he's not a child (though he may look younger than he is) so it's no wonder, really. Yeah, it's bad but I don't see it making much damage, at least if it's confined to an EX program. I haven't seen his short so I can't comment on that, yet. As long as his programs for this year are well-choreographed, though not exactly fitting to his character (or what we think is his character), I wouldn't worry too much. Hanyu has been on the senior scene only in the past two years, and he really made a breakthrough only last year, so it's obvious that he hasn't had a chance to show much about himself, and that makes it harder for choreographers to come up with a program that really fits him. Orser himself has only known him for three months. You can't compare these relationships with the one he has with Abe, who's known him, coached him and choreographed for him since he was a novice skater.
I think I wrote too much for my first post
07-30-2012, 11:48 AM
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