Thank you for your report, Let's Talk!
Thank you for your report, Let's Talk!
Thank you so much for your report into such details as usual, let's talk!
I always enjoy any live reports/reviews both competitions and shows by GS members and only appreciative to them, though on some comments I sometimes may not fully agree , because not everyone of us can affort actually going there for various reasons. And because me remembering those old days where figure skating for me as a little girl meant only at the Winter Olympic Games and NHK Trophies on TV for a long time; there was no way of knowing for me back then that, say, Midori was so admired and respected by such many int'l skating fans. Now we have various ways to access to any live results, online streamings, videos, youtubes, reports, reviews, opinions, discussions, praises (and objections to them of course). Golden Skate Forum rocks!
Oh and if I talk about myself as a live reporter, I am not that good, I guess...my husband often complains that I tend to say only nice things about skaters I saw, so that others just can't 'comprehend' how the competition actually turned out.
Interesting, but I agree with let's talk. I also don't like S/S . They did not give me too much in ten years since skate together. It seems how subjective sport is the figure skating .
I'm sorry to hear that Savchenko/Szolkowy seem to be skating with such lack of commitment. They have been my favorite active pair for the past few years. Even when Shen/Zhao were still skating, I loved S/S for their innovative programs, and I hoped they would rise to the top next season. I can still dream, can't I?
Ikebanas and the arena (fan video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx4AKdD9rX0
Backstage photos: https://www.facebook.com/ArtOnIce/photos_stream
I will explain in more detail, then. I came here from a fan page where a link to your review was posted, and where several people called it unpleasant. And it wasn't a Patrick Chan page, I assure you. I wanted to read the review for myself to see if I agree or not. I wrote upon my first impression after reading it only once. I shouldn't have done that. But initially I didn't know who had written the review - I didn't even remember your user name. I remembered that earlier 'Dreams on Ice' review and our conversation about it only some time after having read this review.
As for Chan - yes, I like him, but he is probably somewhere in 9th or 10th place of my top 10 of current male single skaters (current meaning both those who still compete, and those who continue skating in shows). My absolutely favorite current skater is Stephane Lambiel, then Kurt Browning (such a pity that he must retire completely soon), then Daisuke, then Jeffrey Buttle, Jeremy Abbott, then Plushenko, Joubert, Amodio. When it comes to the 9th and 10th place, I fluctuate between skaters like Chan, Denis Ten, Javier Fernandez, Tatsuki Machida, Johnny Weir, or recently even Shawn Sawyer (a great show skater).
As for being from Riga ("the middle of nowhere" - absolutely true when it comes to figure skating, very true in many other aspects, not so true in some other things) - I am not an immigrant from Russia. I am a Latvian with some Russian-Jewish ancestors who have lived here for generations (not from soviet times, but from earlier times). I also have purely Latvian ancestors (as purely as it can be) and Austrian ancestors. On the record, I don't hate Plushenko - I like him, and respect him a lot, as indicated by his place in my top 10 of current single male skaters.
Finally, I don't want to repeat our conversation about show skating, but I will say that I can understand the negative view on show skating as mere entertainment. I personally don't have strong prejudices against easy entertainment programs, but I am not ecstatic when it's all I see in a show. At the same time, I don't think that show programs should always contain difficult jumps, complicated spins and step sequences like right out of competition programs. I miss the old times of professional competitions and truly great show skating even without having lived them. But it's not just because of the technical content that skaters tried to include in their programs then. Most of all I miss skaters trying to create works of art instead of mere exhibition programs with very much reduced content, or just strings of their trademark elements, I miss the innovation and creativity. I even miss the entertainment programs of those times that were often of much higher quality than now - sometimes to the point that they became art. But I understand that the current requirements for competitive skaters are so high that they don't have much time left for creating exhibition programs. It's even easier to include some difficult technical elements, than to think of an interesting idea and/or story, and then to invest enough time and effort to be able to embody this idea/story properly, and/or to learn new, interesting choreography, or new interesting elements. Fortunately, there are skaters who at least try - styles (in terms of music, movement and performance) that are new to them, if nothing else. Of course, professional skaters have more time for that. But even they don't always do that. I personally am lucky that I am able to enjoy pure skating without big tricks when it's done by skaters who have some qualities that show through even in simple programs and/or who are basically good performers who don't need very much to excite the public. But I still want to see something more at least from time to time. That's why I am a fan of Stephane. He may not always include difficult jumps, but he always thinks of idea/story, style, choreography, or some interesting elements that are not jumps/spins, also about steps (although they are not as complicated as in competition programs).
Thanks for your detailed report let's talk! Sounds like it was a really good show.
You're from Riga? Our ancestors were practically neighbors. My father's side came from Lithuania--don't know where, but I like to think it was from Vilna because I hear it's so beautiful. Didn't Mikhail Baryshnikov grow up in Riga? After all these decades, he still makes my heart beat a bit faster. I don't know if he was Russian-in-Latvia or Latvian, but one look from those mournful blue eyes, and who cares?
I like show skating because, like you, I'm less interested in the tricks than I am in the total effect. Of course, an amazing quad or an airborne leap like YuNa's triple-triple will get my pulse racing, but I once watched Brian Boitano do a program based on spreadeagles. Believe me, it was every bit as riveting as any fabulous jumping pass. The pro competitions of the 1990s had wonderfully innovative skating, like Browning's "Summertime" (choreographed by Alexander Zhulin, I believe) and some of the ice dance programs by Torvill and Dean or Klimova and Ponomarenko. And the way Yuka Sato blossomed as a pro was inspiring in the extreme. I wish Michelle Kwan had spent some years as a pro, but I'm grateful we had her as long as we did, so I can't whine too much.
I hope to hear more from you, whether I agree with you or not. Hey, there are more than enough great skaters to go around, right?
Not a bid deal. Internet is for everyone.
As for reducing the tech content in shows, masters don't need it. Kurt could still jump his huge 2A at the age of 45 and present a show masterpiece as well.
One more news clip of AOI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZLWml0NzG8
Of course, those are the best examples. Not everyone - even of the best - can do that. But there are also those who think that the art side in an exhibition program is more important than jumps, and who want to leave more room for choreography and emotions. That's why they most often leave the quads for the finale (not always, though). By the way, if there are not many difficult jumps in a figure skating program (or even no jumps at all), it doesn't mean that the program is easy, even technically. As someone who seems to know quite a lot about figure skating you must know also this.As for reducing the tech content in shows, masters don't need it. Kurt could still jump his huge 2A at the age of 45 and present a show masterpiece as well.