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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinymavy15 View Post
    very true. but he can also choreograph very well to cater to the system and reap points out of every movement, think Yu-na programs.
    Yes, and Yu-Na was a skater who was able to skate to a programme that reaps points. Every skater is not able to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McIce View Post
    If Morozov is the king of recycling, Lori Nicol is the queen of recycling. A lot of programs she produced in last 5/6 years were recycled from what she did before. Also, she didn't even bother to change step sequences for one skater when you look at that skater's programs across seasons. I feel she has lost most of the magic she used to have when she worked with Michelle Kwan.

    I would consider Sandra Bezic is a better choreographer than most of the currently active ones such as Morozov, Lori, David etc.
    Just curious how come Bezic doesn't seem to be choreographing anymore, I really like her work for Lu Chen and her seminal Butterfly Lovers! David Wilson mentioned they are great friends and they sound ideas off each other... it doesn't seem like she has choreographed anything for ages, is she retired?

    I do wish we see more variety of programs out there instead of the same 4 or 5 choreographers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Just curious how come Bezic doesn't seem to be choreographing anymore, I really like her work for Lu Chen and her seminal Butterfly Lovers! David Wilson mentioned they are great friends and they sound ideas off each other... it doesn't seem like she has choreographed anything for ages, is she retired?

    I do wish we see more variety of programs out there instead of the same 4 or 5 choreographers.
    Haha, have you heard Bezic's commentating on US TVs? She doesn't like CoP, to say the least. It is a great challenge for choreographers in CoP era which not many people could meet and equal to such challenge.

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    I guess David has that dancer's touch. Isn't he a dancer first before a skating choreographer? Plus he pushes his skaters to do their best, he tries to look for their strengths. And the skaters who work with him like him very much.

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    it's more of conflict of interest reason, Sandra Bezic has a long lasting contract with NBC as the commentator, and they don't want her to choreograph elite skaters, otherwise it will bring the question whether she can comment without bias on the skaters she worked with or skaters choreographed by others.
    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Just curious how come Bezic doesn't seem to be choreographing anymore, I really like her work for Lu Chen and her seminal Butterfly Lovers! David Wilson mentioned they are great friends and they sound ideas off each other... it doesn't seem like she has choreographed anything for ages, is she retired?

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    Sandra Bezic did choreograph for a CoP skater Yuna Kim even though it was a gala, "Don't stop the music," not a competition program and competitive programs for Joannie for more than a couple of seasons IIRC.

    Also, it was her who suggested a bond girl and Gershwin piece as Yuna's Olympic programs to David and he said that at the moment he was so mortified as Sandra's Gershwin program for Barbara and Paul was "untouchable" masterpiece for him and he quoted her as his "mentor and inspiration." But Sandra gave him the blessing and he created those programs for Yuna.

    This info was revealed during David's interview with PJ in cbc sports around March after Olympics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANW View Post
    it's more of conflict of interest reason, Sandra Bezic has a long lasting contract with NBC as the commentator, and they don't want her to choreograph elite skaters, otherwise it will bring the question whether she can comment without bias on the skaters she worked with or skaters choreographed by others.
    Off-topic question, but does anyone else think that Universal Sports is wrong to use Belbin for ice-dance commentary? At first, the network made a thorny situation even worse by omitting any on-air acknowledgment of her conflict of interest. During her more recent appearances, it finally started slipping in a quasi-disclaimer "disguised" as a jocular mention of her relationship with White, but I still think that she's a bad choice, no matter how hard she tries to be objective. She won't have true credibility until White retires (or they break up).
    [The silver lining to losing access to Universal Sports has been easy avoidance of this aggravation. ]

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    Wouldn't she still have a conflict of interest if they broke up (Belbin and White) because usually there's a lot of negativity toward the ex.

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    But Tanith is too nice and classy to cross the line

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    Hope Lori and David would choreograph for Akiko!

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    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Just curious how come Bezic doesn't seem to be choreographing anymore, I really like her work for Lu Chen and her seminal Butterfly Lovers! David Wilson mentioned they are great friends and they sound ideas off each other... it doesn't seem like she has choreographed anything for ages, is she retired?
    Bezic has long stated that she has no interest in choreographing competitive programs under CoP. It really does change how a choreographer works and she would have to learn the craft all over again. She does do work for shows and exhibition numbers but not competitive programs.

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    well if Sandra Bezic worked with Joannie, that must be long time ago before Joannie rose to the top. Sandra herself said in an interview that NBC specifically asked her not to choreograph for top skaters and that's the reason. Besides the exhibition and show numbers, I believe she worked with some novice skaters in Canada for their competitive programs in the last couple of seasons. Back to 98 Olympics Sandra was the choreographer for both Tara Lipinski and Lu Chen, and she worked for CBC as the commentator. When Lu Chen skated on the ice, Sandra Bezic kept quiet most of time, all she could say was how Lu Chen struggled with some jump techniques and she didn't mention anything about the the program and how emotional Lu Chen skated, it was very awkward, so this conflict of interest thing does have a reason here.

    Quote Originally Posted by l'etoile View Post
    Sandra Bezic did choreograph for a CoP skater Yuna Kim even though it was a gala, "Don't stop the music," not a competition program and competitive programs for Joannie for more than a couple of seasons IIRC.

    Also, it was her who suggested a bond girl and Gershwin piece as Yuna's Olympic programs to David and he said that at the moment he was so mortified as Sandra's Gershwin program for Barbara and Paul was "untouchable" masterpiece for him and he quoted her as his "mentor and inspiration." But Sandra gave him the blessing and he created those programs for Yuna.

    This info was revealed during David's interview with PJ in cbc sports around March after Olympics.

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    I don't consider it a conflict of interest for choreographers to provide network commentary, but in fairness, any who do always state at the start of the program that this is their work. Certainly Kurt has provided commentary on both Canadian and US networks regarding programs he's choreographed. It would only be a conflict of interest if they had some hand in determining the outcome of the contest but commentary is fine by me. The choreographer's name is a matter of public record for the event and the information is readily available on the ISU's website so it's not like they can hide their involvement in the programs.

    Bezic was on NBC and choreographing programs. Lori Nichol has provided commentary on the CBC and I love it when she does commentary on one of her programs because she often provides interesting insights into the choice of the music and her work with the skaters.

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