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    I loved Vaughan Williams, too. Thanks, os168!

    Actually, Holst's The Planets (orchestra version) has always been my best pick as LP for male single skaters.
    The opening of The Jupitar, especially, would suit for a quad, and if the skater can hit a perfect 4-3 right at the tone, I am sure everybody is gonna be !
    I would be over the moon if Daisuke is going to skate to the Seiji Ozawa with Boston Symphony Orchestra version.

    http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...lbum_id=146669

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    Oh, Matthew Bourne. A fantastic modern choreographer (the guy who did the Swan Lake Olympia refers to). He could something thrilling for Dai.

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    I think Daisuke could do an amazing "Malaguena "

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    Oh, please no Malaguena! I hope Dai continues on the more original musical choices.

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    Here are a few music ideas that came to mind -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5QAKup4jxM Reverie by Claude Debussy - a beautiful piece of music, and very emotional.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiyKgeGWx0 Carmina Burana: O Fortuna

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF1iZH1F40s Requiem for a Tower. I know that Alena Leonova used it last year in her free program (I think Song Nan may have used it, too) , but in my opinion, Alena didn't do it justice. This song is one of my favorites.

    I'm new at this, so please forgive me if these are bad ideas! Anyway, I'm sure I'll end up loving whatever Dai decides to skate to

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    LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

    I hunted around on YouTube, and the name was in Spanish, so I almost missed it. It's that Canadian production of The Planets, with both dancers and skaters. The skaters are Brian Orser and the Duchesnays. One of the dancers is Sonia Rodriguez, now Mrs. Browning. Speaking of inventive choreography!

    Here's the Jupiter section:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_o7...feature=relmfu

    Here's Neptune:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4FBMm2W0Y

    Here's Sonia in the Venus section:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL36b...feature=relmfu

    Here's Brian as Mercury:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Z2M...feature=relmfu

    There are some other sections, of course. You'll find them near the ones I've linked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

    I hunted around on YouTube, and the name was in Spanish, so I almost missed it. It's that Canadian production of The Planets, with both dancers and skaters. The skaters are Brian Orser and the Duchesnays. One of the dancers is Sonia Rodriguez, now Mrs. Browning. Speaking of inventive choreography!

    Here's the Jupiter section:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_o7...feature=relmfu

    Here's Neptune:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4FBMm2W0Y

    Here's Sonia in the Venus section:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL36b...feature=relmfu

    Here's Brian as Mercury:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Z2M...feature=relmfu

    There are some other sections, of course. You'll find them near the ones I've linked.
    I LOVE YOU, OLYMPIA!

    , though I can not open these vids while at the office right now ...am really looking forward to seeing them when come home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    LOOK WHAT I FOUND!

    I hunted around on YouTube, and the name was in Spanish, so I almost missed it. It's that Canadian production of The Planets, with both dancers and skaters. The skaters are Brian Orser and the Duchesnays. One of the dancers is Sonia Rodriguez, now Mrs. Browning. Speaking of inventive choreography!

    Here's the Jupiter section:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_o7...feature=relmfu

    Here's Neptune:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4FBMm2W0Y

    Here's Sonia in the Venus section:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL36b...feature=relmfu

    Here's Brian as Mercury:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Z2M...feature=relmfu

    There are some other sections, of course. You'll find them near the ones I've linked.
    Wow thanks for finding this. Must check it out! I wish there are more adventurous grand themed projects like this among the elite world class skaters. A little ambition wouldn't hurt Think of all the possibilities!!!
    Last edited by os168; 05-17-2012 at 06:16 AM.

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    Toller Cranston was involved with some great thematic ice extravaganzas like this.

    He was Tybalt in a Romeo & Juliet on Ice in 1982
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=032DwlgcNHo

    His Dreamweaver special was really wonderful, but I don't see it on youtube just now.

    And there is also the version of Carmen on Ice with Katarina Witt, Brian Boitano and Brian Orser! It reminds me that there is a lot of Carmen that is not overused

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFep6bm8JdA

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf8BD...feature=relmfu

    Part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGv97batpz4

    Part 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RoMx...feature=relmfu

    Part 5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRWLW...feature=fvwrel

    Part 6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX1lh...feature=relmfu

    Part 7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxxMfqJf61A

    Part 8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1F_r...feature=relmfu

    Part 9
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDPW...feature=relmfu

    Part 10 - Credits & Interviews
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9osfa...feature=relmfu


    and then there was "Six Gestures" with Yoyo Ma & Torvill & Dean (T&D were not in all the clips)

    There were 8 separate clips

    Here's one:

    Bach's Cello Suite No. 6, Prelude
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383i93LiT-o

    Bach's Cello Suite No. 6, Gavotte
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Ksy_Dn82w

    and another
    Bach's Cello Suite No. 6, Sarabande
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g-uf81SUko

    and another,
    Bach's Cello Suite No. 6, Gigue
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRS-E5ud2Xg

    Bach's Cello Suite No. 6, Courante
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90_J-AXrcl8


    I couldn't find the other 3 clips, but it was all gorgeous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    I love Dai, the most versatile male skaters around, capable of a great deal of sensitivity, showmanship and class, very rare among the men.

    I think it might be refreshing if he do something totally European this year. Something classical vs something bit modern. Something pensive vs something theatrical. Something masculine vs something ephemeral?
    "Caruso" by Lucio Dalla, http://youtu.be/Rgr3Oz4znuk (this song is about the pain and longings of a man who is about to die while looking into the eyes of the woman he loves)

    Oh you ladies might like this version of Caruso better since it is sung by Julio Iglesias http://youtu.be/s_l2mLvpiJE

    Bizet - Carmen, "L'amour est un oiseau rebelle" http://youtu.be/axvhEUyVfX0 (only Dai could and Pasquale could pull this off)
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    Thanks to everyone for the wonderful things you're linking here! If any skater in the world could pay attention to any one thread on any forum, my first wish would be for Daisuke to find this thread. What a treasure trove of performance and music!


    Doris, thanks for linking all the sections of the Romeo and Juliet so we can find them easily! Toller Cranston's Tybalt in that production demonstrates how superior he was as a skater. Sure, the guys and even the ladies do jumps with more rotations these days, but in terms of sheer quality of skating, he stands equal with all of them. Seeing him also points up the fact that Canada has had an unbroken line of world-class athlete/artists as their men's champions: from Toller through Brian Orser, Kurt, Elvis (well, an athlete, but with his own performing persona), Emanuel Sandhu, Jeffrey Buttle, and now Patrick Chan. Except for Sandhu, who was the heartbreak kid in terms of competition breakdowns (I include him because of his amazing technique and artistry), every one of these men a world champion save for Toller, who was both a world and Olympic medalist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redwing View Post
    "Caruso" by Lucio Dalla, http://youtu.be/Rgr3Oz4znuk (this song is about the pain and longings of a man who is about to die while looking into the eyes of the woman he loves)

    Oh you ladies might like this version of Caruso better since it is sung by Julio Iglesias http://youtu.be/s_l2mLvpiJE

    Bizet - Carmen, "L'amour est un oiseau rebelle" http://youtu.be/axvhEUyVfX0 (only Dai could and Pasquale could pull this off)

    Ahh yes it would very interesting to see which skater actually take advantage of the new relaxed rule to allow vocals in their music next year, it could be quite daring and risky, but if anyone is capable of taking a risk and get rewarded, I can see Daisuke push the way forward.

    I Like 'Caruso' alot, a real classic and I have seen both Il Divo and Andrea Bocelli perform this live in their concerts. I'd say I prefer Il Divo version and they are overall more impressive live.

    I actually think this music would also suit to Weaver and Poje for ice dance. I got quite weepy by the end of their FD @ WC and got totally spaced out.

    I agree about Dai and Pasquale for Carmen, despite there are so many Carmen already, there's still room for one brilliant one. The definitive Carmen for the lady's belong to Katarina Witt from the Olympics, how about for mens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by os168 View Post
    Ahh yes it would very interesting to see which skater actually take advantage of the new relaxed rule to allow vocals in their music next year, it could be quite daring and risky, but if anyone is capable of taking a risk and get rewarded, I can see Daisuke push the way forward.

    I Like 'Caruso' alot, a real classic and I have seen both Il Divo and Andrea Bocelli perform this live in their concerts. I'd say I prefer Il Divo version and they are overall more impressive live.

    I actually think this music would also suit to Weaver and Poje for ice dance. I got quite weepy by the end of their FD @ WC and got totally spaced out.

    I agree about Dai and Pasquale for Carmen, despite there are so many Carmen already, there's still room for one brilliant one. The definitive Carmen for the lady's belong to Katarina Witt from the Olympics, how about for mens?
    Yes Katarina was amazing and I don't think any men skated to this particular aria. I don't anyone but Dai could pull it off to be honest. He had huge sucess with La Strada and I know he and Pasquale could work their magic here.

    As for Caruso, I agree many great artists gave their interpretations. Those you mention and Lara Fabain rendition is also fantastic. I just have a soft spot for Mireille

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    Thinking of choreographers: several dance choreographers have attempted to create skating programs, but the one who worked best for me was Lar Lubovitch. He choreographed some material for a live ice show some time ago, and he also made a wonderful program for Paul Wylie to, of all things, Jim Morrison and the Doors. Can't find it on YouTube, alas.

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    Olympia, did you see the thread for akiko i started-what could she perform to next year-you know so much classical music and more. I hope to see her as WC gold at 29, tho just my wish (guessing its Liza) Akiko has a music suggestion thread and I hope she reads here.

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