This is true. And if you look up common English errors, made by native speakers, many do not use the subjunctive mode when they should.
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=334922
And apparently British & American English speakers differ.
http://www.englishpractice.com/gramm...ve-mood-exist/
A person who is my age is apt to use the subjunctive mode, but younger people, not as much. I became fond of the nuances you could express with it when I took Latin in high school.
Doris, that's so funny, I learned about subjunctive mood (mostly just knowing you should say, "If I were ... " rather than "If I was ... " even though "I" is singular) also from Latin in HS! It's amazing how you really formalize your understanding of grammatical nuances, as you aptly termed them, when you study another language.
Now, if we can just get so many to stop using "I" as the object of compound prepositional phrases ("for you and I" really should be "for you and me," for example -- I was always taught to just drop the first part as a quick check -- you wouldn't say, "for I" you'd say, "for me" -- and that reminds you it's objective case). And don't get me started on "than" and "then" - how did that misusage even start?
Back to Alissa, I don't go on FB, did anyone say when her MRI results would be posted?
Originally Posted by Olympia
I look at it this way. We Americans took our sloppy subjunctives to the surface of the moon. How far did the French, Romans and Spanish get?
That's one of my pet peeves also, "for you and I." Your way of testing it out, dropping the first part, is the best way to check and also the best way to explain it to anyone.
Studying another language makes us realize that all language has a structure, even the one we started speaking in baby talk at the age of one. Latin is one of the best languages for exploring the structure of language because it's so regular. Because nouns have six cases, you can tell when a noun is supposed to be an object of a preposition or an indirect object, for example, or whether it's the subject or object of the sentence.
As for Alissa, I hope she finds out soon if something is amiss, and I hope it can repair itself.
I hope she's OK!
Pretty quote.
For Alissa: Get well soon and I hope nothing is wrong!
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In a way, it might be better to find there is something wrong, and work on fixing it. If there is nothing wrong, then Alissa still doesn't have a clue as to why she skated so badly.
Agreed! (But I hope it's something minor and fixable.)
Sort of a cryptic message. She must have an injury.
Maybe. If she has something wrong then works on fixing it she might know why she had such a bad skate at Worlds.
Can't find her Facebook page. I'm on Facebook and I can't find her page.
I agree.
Stay strong Alissa!
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Verte, Alissa's FB page is linked in the OP. Here it is again:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alissa...44134182298712
Since you are on FB and since so many seem to think it may do her good to see my spins on "MRI", maybe you can bring them there or call her attention to this thread?
I didn't expect so much attention on my little word play which was meant to show different and positive meanings can be derived from the same words or situations. It is a matter of focus and choice. It may be encouraging for Alissa to realize this. I believe in deliberate creation with one's mind. The instant effects of positive and negative thoughts on the body can be easily demonstrated. So why waste one's energy and risk increasing the chances of negative outcomes? I hope Alissa as a skater realizes the importance of mental exercise and uses it to her advantage.
I suppose someone else can share SF's poem on Czisny's facebook, with SF's permission & appropriate credit given, of course. I don't know if anyone else here is Czisny's "friend" or not, but if posted on there I'm positive she will see it.
^^^ I wouldn't call it a poem at all. LOL. Just immediate phrases coming to my mind using M R I like Alissa did, but from a positive perspective. I actually cut them down to about the same number of phrases as she put out. I probably should have arranged them in a more meaningful way. Anyways, in this forum, I can never tell which one of my many mumbling posts will end up getting attention. Always amusing when one does.
poem, immediate phrases, all the same thing to me, you guys are fitting words within a specified structure (MRI in this case)
I hope she proceeds cautiously here with her statements to the public. If her poor performance is attributable to an injury she knew about, she should have never gone to Worlds after seeing what happened with Rachel last year. It's hard to imagine a situation in which she didn't know she had an injury, but it did affect her performances, and would be revealed with an MRI. Obviously I hope she will be ok but it makes me a bit angry to think she knew she wouldn't be able to skate her best at Worlds but decided to go anyway.
That's why I feel this is deja vu- but again, I'll wait until more details are released.
I don't feel that way at all. Every athlete is all banged up by the end of the season. I can easily imagine a situation where a skater could make it to the world championship despite an accumulation of aches and pains, determined to suck it up, shake it off, and push through no matter what.
The off-season is the time for MRIs, rehab, rest, and finding out if there is really something wrong that requires medical intervention before next season.
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