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    if no names changes good luck to all some events are more competitive than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolboogie22 View Post
    I'm glad that Kaetlyn Osmond was choose for Skate Canada. She deserved it

    And, I'm sure that she will shine at this event just like Gracie
    Unfortunately, Kaetlyn will not only be facing Gracie at SC. There is some tough competition: Suzuki, Murakami, Tuktamysheva. But there are some skaters that may not be in top shape at the start of the season: Gedevanishvili, Makarova and maybe Zhang.

    Strategically, it could be important that Osmond beat Lacoste, and that Gold beat Zhang, since they will be facing those rivals at their respective Nationals.

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    I'm glad Alissa only got one event because she asked for just one. It would have been weird the USFSA giving their no.2 (from Nats) just one event, when Agnes and Caroline both got two. (I know there's her Worlds placement to take into account, but still.)

    I'm positively thrilled Ashley got Paris :D Mostly because it's right around the corner for me. The Singles events in Paris are pretty competitive though! Especially if comeback skaters Johnny and Miki don't withdraw. I'm very excited!

    Also excited to see Jorik and Kaetlyn getting a GP event!

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    Alissa asked for just one GP event because she's having surgery on her torn hip ligament this month. She will be off the ice for at least two months, maybe more. Who knows if she will be able to practice full out in time to get ready for the last GP.

    Other skaters who had surgery for the same injury are Kwan and Lipinski. Neither returned to competitive skating post surgery.

    Kwan was able to get back some of her jumps within a year after surgery, but decided to go to college instead of returning to competition. Lipinski retired from competitive skating after her OGM because of hip pain (same problem) and after surgery, she returned to SOI too soon and developed arthritis in that hip. She had limited jumping ability after the surgery, and that became more and more limited as time went on. After a year or two skating in pain, she retired from show skating when she was 20.

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    As for Nagasu, who thinks that perhaps if Alissa isn't ready to go at NHK that Nagasu might get that invite off the sub list?

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    I'm more hopeful for the TBA's still out there for Mirai: Canada, China, & France. I'm fairly sure that Russia will fill its TBA with its own skaters, but the other 3 programs are fairly weak. It's possible that Canada may pick Phaneuf again, but if they didn't already, I don't know why they would later.

    How long before the event is it considered too late to fill the spot at NHK?

    I know that in the past, it often happen3d that when skaters withdrew, the spot was left empty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Alissa asked for just one GP event because she's having surgery on her torn hip ligament this month.
    In the interest of accuracy:
    The labrum is basically a "cushion" of cartilage at the edge of the hip socket. It is not a ligament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'm more hopeful for the TBA's still out there for Mirai: Canada, China, & France. I'm fairly sure that Russia will fill its TBA with its own skaters, but the other 3 programs are fairly weak. It's possible that Canada may pick Phaneuf again, but if they didn't already, I don't know why they would later.

    How long before the event is it considered too late to fill the spot at NHK?

    I know that in the past, it often happend that when skaters withdrew, the spot was left empty?
    I'm pretty sure China will give its host pick to Zijun Li (she only has one event, at NHK.) And if not Zijun, Bingwa Geng. Mae Bernice Meite is a good contender for the French TBA spot (she is at SA only right now).

    I think Mirai is likely to end up on Canada or Japan, esp. if Alissa cannot make her comeback.

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    Hoping that Nagasu gets a chance to prove herself- and takes advantage of the opportunity. However, it's worth it to note that she usually peaks later in the season and typically doesn't start strong. She needs to get out there so she can set her peak for the right time.

    Also hoping that Wagner can keep it up and Gold can make a statement. And above all, hoping that the three mentioned all stay healthy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    I'm pretty sure China will give its host pick to Zijun Li (she only has one event, at NHK.) And if not Zijun, Bingwa Geng. Mae Bernice Meite is a good contender for the French TBA spot (she is at SA only right now).

    I think Mirai is likely to end up on Canada or Japan, esp. if Alissa cannot make her comeback.
    From my reading of the Chineseboards, ZiJun is a home favourite, so I am also thinking she will get CoC.

    I hope the best for Mirai I really do. Too much talent going to waste otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    How long before the event is it considered too late to fill the spot at NHK?

    I know that in the past, it often happend that when skaters withdrew, the spot was left empty?
    Here's what the rules say in the case of substitutions for withdrawals.

    It is mandatory that an Organizing Member replaces any skater/couple who withdraws from the event with an alternate up to fourteen (14) days prior to the draw for that event. At the seven day mark, consideration will be given by the ISU Grand Prix Coordination Group to leaving a position vacant because of visa requirements or unduly high travel costs that would be incurred by the Organizing Member.
    If I recall correctly, for 2004 Skate America Alissa Czisny was tapped at the very last mnuite to substitute for Michelle Kwan. Czisny was sent because she was the only skater who lived close enough (to Pittsburgh) to get there in time. (She finished fourth).

    The next year I believe she was also a last minute replacement for Michelle and Sasha, respectively, at Skate America (2nd) and Skate Canada (1st). There was an article in Blades on Ice joking that Alissa kept her bags packed that whole season, waiting for the midnight call.

    Barring late withdrawals for medical reasons, August 15th is the time by which invited skaters must confirm their participation. I couldn't find any rule about when all TBA's must be filled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Kwan was able to get back some of her jumps within a year after surgery, but decided to go to college instead of returning to competition.
    I remember Kwan, I think it was at 2009 Nationals, indicating that she could attempt a comeback and needed to get in LP shape. Does anyone know how close she got to a full set or triple jumps before she abandoned her plans?

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    It's worth remembering that these days, skaters do not need "a full set of triples." Certainly our current world champion does not have one, nor did YuNa Kim at the end, nor does Mao.

    So if Alissa can't do a loop, for example, that will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    It's worth remembering that these days, skaters do not need "a full set of triples." Certainly our current world champion does not have one, nor did YuNa Kim at the end, nor does Mao.

    So if Alissa can't do a loop, for example, that will be fine.
    Alissa hasn't been able to put a triple salchow back into her program successfully this past season though, so she's already at a disadvantage. She can't afford to lose another triple on top of that, so she does need to get all the triples she did have back. Carolina was lucky that when injury forced her to stop doing lutz and flip, her other triples were solid enough, and she wasn't very competitive until she got the flip back.

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    Am in Thailand for 2 weeks, little time for internet. It appears SA is weak field, set up for Wagner to make strong run at GP final. She should easily finish top 3, but will have tougher time at TEB. Likewise, NHK has set up Asada and Suzuki against weak field, including 3 second tier Russians. It looks like Suzuki will have easiest path to GP final. CoC and TEB have the toughest ladies fields, with Kostner, Ando, and Julia L. matched in both of these. It will be an accomplishment to medal at either Coc or TEB, especialy if Ando and Asada are in form. Hopefully Nagasu will be in top form in the tough Coc, otherwise she will be buried in 5th or 6th. I think the Russians are underestimating the US trio of Gold, Zhang and Zawad, apparently expecting a Leonova/ Sotnikova win. Sotnikova was beatable last year, and Gold/Zhang could surprise in Russia. I note the US had 14 slots last year, so far 12 this year. Slots appear harder to get with return of Ando and addition of Julia L. and Gold. Should be a great season.

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