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    VERY Early Predictions

    Since it is summer and skating news are scarce, I thought we could start predictions for the upcoming grand prix season. I am aware that the grand prix assignments are not final yet, but why not start now? Any ideas who will dominate the gp and who will falter?

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    Since no one has begun, I will. Here are my picks for ladies.

    Skate America

    1. Ashley Wagner
    2. Alena Leonova
    3. Adelina Sotnikova
    4. Viktoria Helgesson


    Skate Canada

    1. Akiko Suzuki
    2. Elizaveta Tuktamisheva
    3. Gracie Gold
    4. Kanako Murakami

    Cup of China

    1. Carolina Kostner
    2. Mao Asada
    3. Julia Lipnitskaia
    4. Miki Ando

    Rostelecom Cup

    1. Adelina Sotnikova
    2. Alena Leonova
    3. Gracie Gold
    4. Kananko Murakami

    TEB

    1. Carolina Kostner
    2. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    3. Ashley Wagner
    4. Miki Ando

    NHK Trophy

    1. Akiko Suzuki
    2. Mao Asada
    3. Alissa Czisny
    4. Ksenia Makarova

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    that's about how i'd line it up. i don't have the entries in front of me but going off your predictions mine would be about the same. i would say that if miki comes back strong she may beat julia at CoC and ashley has the potential to beat liza at TEB, now that she has shown the judges what she can really do. i hope mao comes back with two breathtaking programs this season and blows everyone away. i wish the same for alissa and miki. i pray to God alissa can recover quickly and come back in time for NHK with two beautiful programs and the mental toughness/calmness she had about her in 2010-2011 and that ashley has at least one program that is up to the standard of or passes what her black swan was...that's gonna be hard to do. i don't want her to be a one-season wonder. lets see if caro and akiko can maintain their consistency from last season.

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    I'll do some Dance predictions (Much easier to predict):
    Skate America: DW, WP, BS
    Skate Canada: VM, CL, GP (or RT)
    Cup of China: WP, PB, BS
    Cup of Russia: VM, IK, Shibs
    Trophee Bompard: PB, CL, GP (or RT)
    NHK: DW, IK, Shibs

    It's kind of annoying how every GP looks so similar. I'd rather have more different matchups.

    Pairs:
    Skate America: VT, PT, DC
    Skate Canada: SS, DR, BH
    CoC: PT, KS, SH
    CoR: VT, BL, DC
    TEB: SS, KS, PZ
    NHK: SH, BL, TT
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    DianaSelene, you underestimate Julia Lipnitskaia.
    From 2007/08 to now her progress from season to season is very good.
    At 2011/12 she was best in Russia with results better than Sotnikova's & Tuktamysheva's in their best 2010/2011 (2011/2012 wasn't so good for them).
    Only comparable skater at 2011/12 in the world was Carolina Kostner (TES better Julia, PCS better Carolina, total comparable).
    At 2011/12 Julia was better at end of season than at beginning.

    So I predict that your prediction may be slightly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    DianaSelene, you underestimate Julia Lipnitskaia.
    From 2007/08 to now her progress from season to season is very good.
    At 2011/12 she was best in Russia with results better than Sotnikova's & Tuktamysheva's in their best 2010/2011 (2011/2012 wasn't so good for them).
    Only comparable skater at 2011/12 in the world was Carolina Kostner (TES better Julia, PCS better Carolina, total comparable).
    At 2011/12 Julia was better at end of season than at beginning.

    So I predict that your prediction may be slightly wrong.
    No, I do not underestimate her. I am one of Julia's biggest fans and absolutely love her. Her consistency last year was amazing and she looked beautiful. The reason I did not put her higher than 3rd is because as much as I want her to win everything, I don't know how she will do coming out from juniors. Everyone else has had international senior experience. However, I will be very happy if she scores higher and goes to the grand prix final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DianaSelene View Post
    No, I do not underestimate her. I am one of Julia's biggest fans and absolutely love her. Her consistency last year was amazing and she looked beautiful. The reason I did not put her higher than 3rd is because as much as I want her to win everything, I don't know how she will do coming out from juniors. Everyone else has had international senior experience. However, I will be very happy if she scores higher and goes to the grand prix final.
    Senior competitions aren't a big problem for Russian girls. Best of them participate in Russian Senior Nationals from 12 years old and take good places.
    Julia was 4th in Senior Nationals at December 2010 and 2nd (after Sotnikova) at December 2011 (difference in score between 1 and 2(Julia's) places 2.06 and between 2(Julia's) and 3 places 13.50).

    We all know that Tuktamysheva had two 1st places at her first two GP events. Winning Suzuki, Wagner, Leonova, Nagasu in Skate Canada and Kostner, Czisny, Murakami in TEB. Her 4th place in GP Final is because she was not so good in second half of season (problems of growing, may be).

    Sotnikova's problems in her GP Events 2011/12 were part of her problems 2011/12 (it was not very good season for her at all, for example, she was 3rd in WJC-2012 after first in WJC-2011, with lower than in 2011 score).

    So if Julia will be at good state, we can wait good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Senior competitions aren't a big problem for Russian girls. Best of them participate in Russian Senior Nationals from 12 years old and take good places.
    Julia was 4th in Senior Nationals at December 2010 and 2nd (after Sotnikova) at December 2011 (difference in score between 1 and 2(Julia's) places 2.06 and between 2(Julia's) and 3 places 13.50).

    We all know that Tuktamysheva had two 1st places at her first two GP events. Winning Suzuki, Wagner, Leonova, Nagasu in Skate Canada and Kostner, Czisny, Murakami in TEB. Her 4th place in GP Final is because she was not so good in second half of season (problems of growing, may be).

    Sotnikova's problems in her GP Events 2011/12 were part of her problems 2011/12 (it was not very good season for her at all, for example, she was 3rd in WJC-2012 after first in WJC-2011, with lower than in 2011 score).

    So if Julia will be at good state, we can wait good results.
    So far the Russian girls do look great at international competitions. I just do not want to jinx them by overhyping and predicting that Lipnitskaya will win all the competitions. It's better to say less and hope that they will do well. There have been too many times when an overhyped skater did not do as well as people thought he/she would. Since I would like Tukt, Sot, Julia, Korobeynikova, and Shelepen to do well, I will keep my expectations low in my predictions while keeping my fingers crossed for them.

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