But he did not beat Hanyu at worlds not to mention Chan in the FS.
Crazy off season!!!!!!
A few thoughts on this Dai news:
1. Be careful on what you wish! Some of Daisuke fans wished Patrick Chan goes to Morozov not long ago. Patrick didn't go, but Daisuke goes.
(Not that I think Morozov was the worst coach dispite the general dislike on him as a person as well as a coach. I've always admired Morozov ever since Yagudin time. I liked Miki while she was with him. Don't like what he has done to Amodio though.)
2. There must be a good reason for it to happen. Morozov's hip hop swanlake had brought a huge success to Daisuke. Like I said before, I think that was the style Daisuke was most comfortable with. And Takahashi has rarely shaken off that style ever since. It makes sense to me if Daisuke and Morozov want to create another similar style program in Olympic year. New style? Probably not. Successful? Very possible. Though, there is no guarantee on OGM even for Chan/Nichol, or Takahashi/Wilson, or any coach, choreographer, and skater combinations.
3. I thought Patrick lost Krall would be the worst news this off season. But now, I look back on what have happened so far in singles and in dance, it seems every top skater is having hardtime at this stage of their skating life. The worst situation is not in single's skating. Morozov won't be my choice for him but he has brought out the best of Takahashi. I think it has a great chance to be successful.
Last edited by Bluebonnet; 06-15-2012 at 08:37 AM.
Well, I think I speak for all of us here on this thread that we are all torn between having Daisuke potentially win the Olympic Gold with a program that does not satisfy what he is capable of or what the supporters want, or potentially missing out due to the fact that his program was less IJS oriented and geared more towards us fans...
Originally Posted by Serious Business
Sigh, whatever goes down, I truly wish Daisuke the best.
Also, Serious Business, you are completely right. This decision has me wondering what is going on behind the curtains of the JSF. There is simply no logic for sending Daisuke back to Morozov, particularly after they split in the fashion that they did. Additionally, he is on the steady trail of pursuing Chan and surpassing him while he is slowly adjusting to his own coaching situation. Not only that, but what he is doing is working for him. He is gaining the attention (and points) of the judges and the fascination of the fans. OT, but he is in fact what makes skating exciting for both fans and spectators.
From a points standpoint, I somewhat understand, however. On the PCS, his "Blues for Klook" was spectacular and accomplishes what one would possibly want. Captivating and innovative choregraphy, difficult transitions going into and out of jumps, excellent flow, and enlightening the crowd in a splendid fashion. However, his PCS of 85.78 was trailing a flawed, off-beat Chan by 4.36 and only beat a "Morozov Clone" Amodio by 4.12. This is quite significant, as Chan's astounding speed and transitions keep him up top (Despite obvious flaws ), but Amodio's jump, stop, pose, spin, etc. choregraphy is much simpler and is only a mere 4 points off from Takahashi. On the TES, Takahashi landed a Quad, two Triple Axels (one in combination with a Triple Toeloop after the half-way mark), and had many jumps after the half-way mark. A wobbly Chan minus a felled Double Axel scored 88.56 while Takahashi scored 88.16. A technically perfect Hanyu scored 91.99. Everyone is levelled when it comes to the Technical to be honest (Slight advantage to Chan though). It comes down to people making errors and miscalculating. If you view some of Takahashi's practices while he was under Morozov, he nails the Quad Toeloops one after another. That is a sign of true athleticism. Mind you, his choreography under Morozov was at least decent. This consistency brings mental confidence and is something he was lacking from the beginning of the Olympic season until Worlds 2012. If he can ressurect and improve upon that confidence along with his Quad (And more flow coming out of the jumps), we WILL see a winner in Sochi .
Sorry for the long post, but in summary, we should all be happy for Daisuke wherever he goes .
Relax, Deedee! Give you another reason: At least Morozov is a famous top skating coach, not just a modern dance instructor.
Originally Posted by deedee1
Last edited by Bluebonnet; 06-15-2012 at 01:02 AM.
I think this is it. If Florent's horribly cheesy and empty Morozov programs get 8s in PCS, maybe Daisuke figured he'd finally get some 9s if he goes back to Morozov and gets a Morozov program too.
Originally Posted by Snoopy15
I hate to say this, but that was my first thought too... it would be a horrible reason. Really just makes you want to slap all of these judges for 'appreciating' Morozov this much
Originally Posted by evangeline
It's pretty though news, I might not really get that for a while... what an off-season.
Just to have that said - I really wish Dai all the best, no matter what he does, it's his career after all. And no matter how awful Morozovs choreo might be, I'll just keep believing in Daisuke's ability to get me into anything. I just hope everything will turn out well for him... that's the most important part.
I don´t think that Morozov is working with any Russian male singles skater to challenge gold in Sochi? For Daisuke this is a good decision, like Kim working with Orser before Vancouver. As for biggest enemy I consider it to be Chan...
Originally Posted by LuCN
Last edited by Jaana; 06-15-2012 at 06:10 AM.
leave no stone unturned
OT, but I Saw the list of Morosov studentsand didnt know Dimitriev went to his group too, when did he leave from Moscow club?
Last edited by seniorita; 06-15-2012 at 06:55 AM.
This give the same smell as what happen to Yuzuru, at least I hope Dai will not use Morozov as his choreographer.
For me, this news make Yuzuru switch to Orser feel like a good dream.
Okay it's official...I don't read any russian but it seems Dai's name is listed in front of Florent. I am gonna hide and cry.
I never thought of Kostner with a good ear for music; I always thought she had the blessings of being long, lean and elegant on ice but I never ever felt her heart was in the music - she just seemed fortunate (in many ways) with her looks and lines. The distance from the music is seen in h er many melt downs. But when she is on there is a regal majesty on the ice by her!!!! imho