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    Weir to do quads in both programs; hires Morozov for step seq

    I don't find his thread,so open a new thread.if there is one,please combine it.thank you.
    It's a long interview from a chinese website,and I think people here may have interest on some informations in it.my english isn't good enough,so I won't translate the whole article,just some tips about figure skating.
    here's the link to the entire interview:http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-06-..._bid=101327229

    ·he didn't want to compete until he was invited to the American nations,and see the male skater's situation.he think he's still competitive,but he doesn't come back for the medals.
    ·he didn't get well with the American federation,but they support him very much this time.they give him 2 GPs.He think that's because they think he's good to spread figure skating in America
    ·his SP music if from lady gaga,and LP is Phonix.
    ·he and his coach have made SP and LP,just need to add some details in the summer.maybe he'll work with David Wilson on the LP,if they has time.
    ·he will add Quads in both of SP and LP
    ·he have hired Morozov to help him on step sequence
    ·some of the skaters show how difficult figure skating can be,but he growed under the old rules.he want to let everybody think they can skate too.he want to show "smooth" perfomance,not(the opposite)
    ·he won't be a coach or choreographer.he saw his coach got to the rink on 7:30 everyday through the years,wearing coat,shiver with cold.that's not what he wants.he will compete on the Olympics for the 3rd time,and then think what to do next.
    ·now figure skating for him is not a "life-and-death" thing.and his coach also accept that,he has husband,his own thing beside figure skating.so they get on better now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuCN View Post
    my english isn't good enough,so I won't translate the whole article,just some tips about figure skating.

    ·he will add Quads in both of SP and LP

    ·some of the skaters show how difficult figure skating can be,but he growed under the old rules.he want to let everybody think they can skate too.he want to show "smooth" perfomance,not(the opposite)

    ·now figure skating for him is not a "life-and-death" thing.and his coach also accept that,he has husband,his own thing beside figure skating.so they get on better now.
    LuCN, thank you so much for the translation! Don't worry about your English. You are doing GREAT!!

    Wow, Johnny is coming back for sure, with harder jump contents and seemingly pressure-free state of mind!
    Ca'nt wait to see how the US Nats is gonna like!

    Johnny, you can teach 'how to skate beautifully and smoothly to the music while reaching out to the audience' to younger CoP prodigies who concentrate on only adding transitions and steps in/out of every jumps or busy in counting revolutions on spins.

    Daisuke and Brian resumed themselves last season, Jeremy and Tomas already stated to keep competing until Sochi, and Johnny is coming back. I feel so sad after learning Kevin Van der Perren and Contesti retired. Glad Mens figure skating is still fascinating to me.
    Now I WANT Stephan Lambiel come back!

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    it makes more sense for him to work with Morosov on steps, I couldn't see him using him for full choreography... really wish he'd get a full time choreographer that isn't his coach, but it is what it is. thanks for the info, LuCN!

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    I don't think Johnny skated as well, just before stepping away, as he did early on in his career. That seems to be opposite of the norm, and it's only my observation having looked at his youtube videos. I'm not fortunate enough like you all to go to the competitions My opinion is that Johnny let his 'expression' of himself get in the way of his 'execution' on the ice.

    I would love to see LESS of the over-the-top animated stuff Johnny was doing the last time around, and see him become more of a fierce skater. Put some fear into Evan!

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    My opinion is that Johnny let his 'expression' of himself get in the way of his 'execution' on the ice. I thoroughly agree with this comment. My hope is that with marraige and a little more maturity that Johnny has settled back into his skating. In my opinion, there isn't a more graceful male skater out there right now. At Nationals in Portland I was watching him putz around the practice rink, thinking, etc. and then he would all of a sudden go into a step sequence or a set up for a jump and he became transformed. Every move was fluid and soft with no hard edges! He's still capable of that! I think Johnny used to skate for himself and didn't necessarily touch the audience (other than those of us who love him) and perhaps all this show work he's done since he stopped competing has made that part of his skating evolve.

    I don't care for the over-the-top costumes, the feathers, the glitz and the weird hairdos. He really doesn't need that. He should let his skating speak for him and save the other stuff for off the ice. I also don't think Nina Petrenko is a great choreographer! I would love to see Johnny work with David Wilson or EVEN Lori Nichols. Heresy maybe, but it would be alot more interesting than some of the things he's done with the Russians.

    I don't think Lysacek is a factor in competitive skating anymore. Johnny's competition is Patrick Chan, Brian Joubert and a host of Japanese men. JMO

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    the article and other article didn't mention Petrenko at all.only mention his long time coach,the old Russia woman(I forget how to spell her name.)

    well,actually if he want to compete in international competitions and Olympics,other american guys are his main competitors IMO...

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    LuCN in the past, Viktor Petrenko, his wife Nina and the old Russian woman (I can't remember her name! Hee!) have been Johnny's team with Nina doing most of the choreography. I just assumed she would be doing it again.

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    Galina Zmievskaya is her name. So she and Johnny did the choreography themselves I am so excited for him. Seems like it's a seriuos come back. For sure he has to do really well even to make it to the Olympics. Many great US boys to beat. The quads(and other jumps) will be crucial + some more transitions than when he last competed. I was lucky to see him medal at worlds 2008 in Göteborg. Not his best skate, but lovely enough for me that day! He doesn't like COP, but anyway he has to play the rules. Can he do it and still come up with a "smooth" performance? Oh TEB, here I wish I come! Both Johnny and Jeremy.... + Verner, Joubert, Amodio etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    At Nationals in Portland I was watching him putz around the practice rink, thinking, etc. and then he would all of a sudden go into a step sequence or a set up for a jump and he became transformed. Every move was fluid and soft with no hard edges! He's still capable of that!
    Johnny is capable of doing many things, on their own. He is not capable of doing them all in one program. His strategy seems to be to avoid "visible" errors to get the audience on his side. Thus he tends to water down his choreography to have a clean and graceful skate. It remains to be seen if he is capable of both high level footwork and clean uncheated jumps, especially if he is going for a quad in each program, which I don't think he has ever done. However, Morozov may just be the perfect advisor for him to have the right step sequence and still do his jumps.

    I don't think Lysacek is a factor in competitive skating anymore. Johnny's competition is Patrick Chan, Brian Joubert and a host of Japanese men. JMO
    First he has make it out of the US Nationals. Despite what he says, he won't go to Worlds or the Olympics if he does not medal in the US.

    He says they (himself and his coach) have already constructed both programs except for the details waiting to be filled in with the help of expert choreographers. He wants to hire Wilson to complete the LP if there is time. I don't know if that's how Wilson and other choreographers work.

    If Johnny is the one to rejuvenate figure skating in the US, its popularity should not have declined while he was actively competing.

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    Well SF, I don't agree with all your points. But yes he does have to make it out of US Nationals.

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    Thanks for posting the article, great read. Johnny has just as much of a chance to make it to the next Olympics as his US teammates, it is not like his teammates are unbeatable, far from it. GO Johnny!!!!!

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    Wow, he's being really ambitious on the comeback season! Lots of expectations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFiguring View Post

    First he has make it out of the US Nationals. Despite what he says, he won't go to Worlds or the Olympics if he does not medal in the US.

    He says they (himself and his coach) have already constructed both programs except for the details waiting to be filled in with the help of expert choreographers. He wants to hire Wilson to complete the LP if there is time. I don't know if that's how Wilson and other choreographers work.
    Yes, first he has to medal at US Nationals. About Wilson choreography, his name did not bring Weir PCS points in Vancouver and I doubt that a watered down choreography carrying Wilson´s name would be more effective now, LOL. To get points Weir needs to skate to a complex choreography, well, if he manages it now after two years, good for him! A quad in sp and fs, big talk which remains just as talk until we see him doing that in competition. Maybe I´m wrong, but I think he never has jumped a successful quad in competitions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaana View Post
    Yes, first he has to medal at US Nationals. About Wilson choreography, his name did not bring Weir PCS points in Vancouver and I doubt that a watered down choreography carrying Wilson´s name would be more effective now, LOL. To get points Weir needs to skate to a complex choreography, well, if he manages it now after two years, good for him! A quad in sp and fs, big talk which remains just as talk until we see him doing that in competition. Maybe I´m wrong, but I think he never has jumped a successful quad in competitions?
    I am not a Weir expert, but if he's done quads, it's not been a great many. Likewise, Johnny isn't someone I think of when I think of complex choreography. Good luck to him, but to me, even his peak abilities would not get him to the world podium these days. Whereas if Joannie Rochette or (pleasepleaseplease) YuNa Kim could somehow come back at their best levels, they would be pretty likely to medal at Worlds. And I'm not sure that either of those ladies could reach their peak of fitness and strength in time for this upcoming Worlds.

    Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong about those two ladies for the benefit of the world skating scene, and I'd love to be proven wrong on Johnny as an American skating fan.

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    I like Weir's attitude towards this. Unlike other skaters like Kim, Lysacek, or Rochette, he has all of this planned out and already knows the image and music he is going to use. We'll see what happens with the other skaters contemplating a return. If they choose not to skate, good luck to them in whatever they decide to pursue instead. I hope Johnny brings out his presentation and other skills like he has done before.

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