i'm so excited for his comeback, i hope it will be epic and that the quads do happen. even if he doesn't go to the olympics again or win another national title or even a medal, i'm fine with just watching the beauty of his skating.
and his PCS isn't bad at all,though I think he should got better PCS than Plushenko and Evan.
which I can't understand is,people here all want to see Plushenko and Evan come back again.I think both of them are boring and mainly for the medals.none of them can bring new things to the sports.
Does it even really matter how CoP-compliant a skater's programs are? Personally, I can think of some skaters who have very obviously CoP-uncompliant programs and they nonetheless score huge PCS and have won Olympic and world medals under CoP....even gold ones.
Anyway, I too am glad to see Johnny come back, quad or no quad. I only hope that his reality TV show is still going on and they get lots of interesting behind-the-scenes skating footage.
Last edited by evangeline; 06-22-2012 at 01:42 AM.
And here is what ISU thought of his Transitions circa 2008
I may not like Evan's skating, but his programs were filled with COP points.
Plushenko was used as an example of lack of transition as well but it was removed before the last Olympics. Weir is not Plushenko.
Last edited by SkateFiguring; 06-22-2012 at 02:06 AM.
There are five components to PCS. Transitions of the lack of them are more obvious but weakness in one component may be made up in others such as Skating Skills. These days the podium contenders are very COP savvy. Even Plushenko with his legend bonus is looking to adapt and adopt more COP friendly programs. He lost the OGM to Lysacek because of insufficient attention to COP.
I am not sure Evan would be considered a real "COP" champion. Many would say it is an insult to compare him to Tak, Buttle, Lambiel or Chan who are much more well rounded skaters. I would say he is a great competitior - I was going to say like katarna Witt but she had a personality and diva status; he's kind of more like pablum. His trnasitions and artistry was not of the quality of these other men. How Johnny will fair is in question. So far the quads are just talk.
But by the time he began skating internationally as a senior, 6.0 was already on the way out, so of course most of his results are under the IJS -that's the system he competed under! However, I think Weir had more enjoyable programs earlier in his career and his strengths are more suited to the previous system (and maybe to early days IJS, which is different from the current version). He's one of a number of skaters who were unlucky in that way.
I like Weir's skating, I wish him luck, but I would be surprised if his plans to include quads in his programs pans out.
I didn't know Boitano was considered nerdy. But nerdy beats pablum any day.
Not to mention beauty.I was going to say like katarna Witt but she had a personality and diva status;
Maybe Johnny will actually try quads this time now that a "<" is worth more than a 2A. It's a consideration to keep in mind that if it wasn't squeaky before the rule changes (2 footed usually netted the equivalent of today's "<<" ) it wasn't worth doing.
1. Oda has the 4CC title from 2006 as well.
2. Is he working hard to get his competitive mettle back up? At this point, we have his own words and some practice videos. Lysacek also gave us his own words and some practice videos last season. And Jonny's actions in the past suggest he likes to talk big, it's not specious to question those words.
3. I'm not eager to have Lysacek back, but Plushenko.... most assuredly. Not because I'm a fan of his skating or even his personality. But because the man is a legend and a giant. Because being the captain of the Russian team and winning the first team figure skating event at the Olympics is something I think would be marvelous.