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    Quote Originally Posted by janetfan View Post
    I agree and Gabby was the best in London.

    Jordan still knows she could have had a shot at the podium though.....so not so sure how "happy" she is.
    I'd like to think while Jordyn may feel some deep pangs of regret over the qualifications round, she's very happy for her friend (and for the recent team win of which she was a major part). I'd like to think team USA is just skipping around the Olympic village singing Justin Bieber songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Business View Post
    I'd like to think while Jordyn may feel some deep pangs of regret over the qualifications round, she's very happy for her friend (and for the recent team win of which she was a major part). I'd like to think team USA is just skipping around the Olympic village singing Justin Bieber songs.
    She sat down to Ryan Seacrest on the Today Show today. He asked her about plans for Rio (she says anything is possible) and if she was still bummed with not making the all around. She basically gave the PR version of "it sucks but I'm getting over it". Either she's a really good actress, or she really does feel what she said... she looked a little bummed, but super proud of the team event.

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    I couldn't stand not knowing until they showed this on TV tonight, so I looked things up, and then I came to GS to see if anyone had any commentary to offer. I was not disappointed! Thanks so much for your account, SB. What an amazing outcome. Now I can watch without, in your vivid phrase, my eyeballs sweating with tension. Aside from this being the first instance of a black athlete winning the individual all-around, I think it's also the first time that the U.S. girls have won both the team gold and the individual gold at the same Games. Wow.

    DianaSelene, I understand your feelings. In the same vein, I still feel that Michelle really, truly won gold at Nagano. But there it is: that's a judged sport for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Business View Post
    I'd like to think while Jordyn may feel some deep pangs of regret over the qualifications round, she's very happy for her friend (and for the recent team win of which she was a major part). I'd like to think team USA is just skipping around the Olympic village singing Justin Bieber songs.
    OK, I think you might be right.

    But there is good news and bad news here....

    the bad news is that they have limited taste in music

    the good news is they are not embarrassing USA by having to send out for a "platinum" medal
    Last edited by janetfan; 08-02-2012 at 02:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Business View Post
    I'd like to think while Jordyn may feel some deep pangs of regret over the qualifications round, she's very happy for her friend (and for the recent team win of which she was a major part). I'd like to think team USA is just skipping around the Olympic village singing Justin Bieber songs.
    I'm thrilled for you, Serious Business!

    And Wieber and Maroney have tweeted their happy reactions to the all-around win for Douglas:

    [INDENT]Jordyn Wieber ‏@jordyn_wieber[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]Congrats @gabrielledoug! You are the Olympic all around champion and you deserve it girl! ❤
    10:36 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]

    [INDENT]Jordyn Wieber ‏@jordyn_wieber[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]So proud of you @Aly_Raisman! You amaze me every day! xoxo
    10:37 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]

    [INDENT]McKayla Maroney ‏@McKaylaMaroney[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]Extremely proud of @gabrielledoug & @Aly_Raisman!! You girls did amazing today and I totally lost my voice cheering for you!! #loveyouboth
    11:54 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]

    ETA:
    And Ross now has tweeted too.

    [INDENT]Kyla Ross ‏@kyla_ross96[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]Extremely proud of @gabrielledoug and @Aly_Raisman! You guys did amazing and I'm so glad that I was there cheering u guys on! Love u❤
    12:57 PM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]
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    And these earlier tweets indicate a lot of mutual love and support among the Fab Five, I think:

    [INDENT]Jordyn Wieber ‏@jordyn_wieber[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]Can't wait to watch @Aly_Raisman and @gabrielledoug rock the house today at all around finals! I'll be the loudest cheerleader in the stands
    1:41 AM - 2 Aug 12 [/INDENT][/INDENT]

    [INDENT]Alexandra Raisman ‏@Aly_Raisman[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]@jordyn_wieber thank you so much Jo!!! I love you!!!!! So lucky to have you as a friend! 
    1:53 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]

    [INDENT]Gabrielle Douglas ‏@gabrielledoug[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]@jordyn_wieber awww thank you soo much!!! I love you soo much!!! Xoxo!!
    2:08 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]

    ETA:
    I will try to stop adding tweets, but these young ladies are adorable! More tweets from before the all-around final:

    [INDENT]Alexandra Raisman ‏@Aly_Raisman[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]@gabrielledoug aaaaah today's the day! So excited, can't wait to compete with you tonight! pic.twitter.com/lQj625DU
    1:58 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]

    [INDENT]Gabrielle Douglas ‏@gabrielledoug[/INDENT]
    [INDENT][INDENT]@Aly_Raisman IKR IM SO EXCITED TO COMPETE TONIGHT WITH YOU!! Today is the day!!! <3 love yah!!
    2:17 AM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT][/INDENT]
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    Gabby's Story

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/ProcterGamble/featured?v=HbhzLI-vNjE[/url]

    Amazing how much more elite training time most of the other girls have had compared to Gabby.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
    I couldn't stand not knowing until they showed this on TV tonight, so I looked things up, and then I came to GS to see if anyone had any commentary to offer. I was not disappointed! Thanks so much for your account, SB. What an amazing outcome. Now I can watch without, in your vivid phrase, my eyeballs sweating with tension. Aside from this being the first instance of a black athlete winning the individual all-around, I think it's also the first time that the U.S. girls have won both the team gold and the individual gold at the same Games. Wow.

    DianaSelene, I understand your feelings. In the same vein, I still feel that Michelle really, truly won gold at Nagano. But there it is: that's a judged sport for you.
    Yep, we all have those moments when we think our favorite athlete was robbed.

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    I just rewatched the women's comp, this time in the BBC archive and with actual commentary. The BBC commentators were pretty right on in their predictions. After Gabby's beam (which came after Komova's), one commentator enthusiastically proclaimed, "surely that's enough to put her in first!" And the judges did. After Douglas' floor, Christine Still declared it "golden" and some other commentator said it's impossible to catch up to her now. And so it was.

    Other things I noticed:

    Really, Douglas won this gold on beam. She had the most difficult beam routine, and made fewer wobbles than Komova (though Komova still earned a slightly higher E score due to her immaculate form).

    Mustafina's fall on beam was pretty much canceled out by Raisman grabbing the beam with both hands to save a landing. And in the end, with scores tied, it came down to the fact that Raisman would've won bronze if she left in the front layout at the end of her first tumbling run. This may explain why Raisman look so dejected afterwards.

    Larisa Andreea Iordache made a pretty huge wobble on one of her moves, a wild balancing check that went on and on (but she managed to keep on the beam). I remembered it as a much tinier mistake. But that is entirely Iordache's fault! Unlike other gymnasts who'd let such a scary wobble rattle them, Iordache completely forgot about it. And hurried through the rest of her routine with the confidence of someone tumbling on flat ground (and seemingly the impatience of someone who has somewhere else to be!). Utterly fearless athlete.

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    An interesting thing to do, watching with another set of commentators. I can see how it would give dimension to one's evaluation of a performance. Kind of like hearing two different actors reading the same classic poem.

    One thing about having seen the results before is that tonight I'll really be able to concentrate on details like the ones to which you called attention. When I don't know the outcome, I'm almost too scared to watch. I'm like some of the athletes' parents, who watch through their fingers (or like Liukin's mom, who I think was the one who had to leave the arena). I'm half-afraid I'll jinx the athlete, which is silly when you consider that hundreds of millions of viewers are tuning in around the planet. But that's the kind of tricks my chicken mind plays on me. Thank goodness I was brave enough to watch all of YuNa's long program in Vancouver. Think of what I would have missed.

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    I watched with no commentary 'cause the BBC online feeds were borked for most of the day, and I was forced to use some raw feeds. I don't really know that much about gymnastics (I think I follow enough to have some idea what judges look for on some things), so I don't mind the BBC commentators. But most of all, the BBC feeds have lovely HD quality, and the EuroVision raw feeds had slightly lesser resolution quality. Still, I can't be too mad at BBC. After all, I was essentially trying to steal their service (I pay no license fee, unlike actual Brits).

    And now I will try to watch some of the NBC coverage. I have utterly failed to make it through NBC's awful, awful coverage of gymnastics so far. I mean, I was curious to see how NBC would cover it and what they'd say about it, but at some point frustration and anger just overwhelms.

    So far, not good. A long rambling fluff piece sets things up, with Nastia Liukin narrating as if she's talking to the two American competitors personally on how to handle this competition. At one point, she said something like "but there are two Russians who could take that gold away from you!" It was just baldly nationalistic/xenophobic. I feel especially bad that Liukin, a second gen Russian, has to say something like this. Both Komova and Mustafina are great competitors and lovely people who at least deserve to be mentioned by name. While maybe team USA and team Russia aren't friends, I'm sure they have plenty of respect for each other. I'd just read an interview with Komova where she said that Douglas deserved her win and is a beautiful gymnast. Why can't NBC be as gracious as that?

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    I watched NBC-truly bad night and day, and guess I missed the last rotation. So I'll try BBC or when NBC does replays. I don't have access to Universal sports. I am guessing there will be replays of the floor. As ususal NBC coverage sucked eggs. Good on Gabby. Not surprised and hope to see her face everywhere. US ladies-you rock! And I wished to have seen more athletes. Its as bad as skating coverage these days! Ah well.

    And GS ladies made it so much better! Gracias!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonichelle View Post
    Is Gabby the first African-American/Black gymnast to win the all around?
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    Absolutely! Historical!
    Although maybe not as significant, here's another bit of history, from Christine Brennan ‏@cbrennansports:
    [INDENT]Gabby Douglas becomes first US gymnast in history to win team gold and indiv. gold. Other US indiv. winners didn't win team title.
    1:33 PM - 2 Aug 12[/INDENT]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serious Business View Post

    So far, not good. A long rambling fluff piece sets things up, with Nastia Liukin narrating as if she's talking to the two American competitors personally on how to handle this competition. At one point, she said something like "but there are two Russians who could take that gold away from you!" It was just baldly nationalistic/xenophobic. I feel especially bad that Liukin, a second gen Russian, has to say something like this. Both Komova and Mustafina are great competitors and lovely people who at least deserve to be mentioned by name. While maybe team USA and team Russia aren't friends, I'm sure they have plenty of respect for each other. I'd just read an interview with Komova where she said that Douglas deserved her win and is a beautiful gymnast. Why can't NBC be as gracious as that?
    This kind of thing bothers me as well. Komova especially did some exquisite work tonight. Even my inexperienced eyes could see that her floor exercise was stupendous. One thing that Daggett and/or Schliegel pointed out was that the Russians always move beautifully because they take years of ballet. This is a Russian contribution to both gymnastics and skating that goes back to the Soviet era. There are times in these sports when Russian contenders make everyone else in the world look crude by comparison. (It especially shows up in male pairs skaters.) Their years of rich tradition deserve respect at the very least. How nice of Komova, by the way, to say what she said. Clearly the Russian was devastated by the outcome, and for her to muster up the civility to give such a lovely evaluation is praiseworthy and touching. I'm thrilled that Gabby won for a variety of reasons, but if Komova had edged her for the gold, it would have been just as good.

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    I think NBC must be stuck in the 80s... they pull the same stuff in the Winter Olympics... they must have died inside when the Cold War ended...

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