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Thread: Advice on Axel jumps

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    Doing waltz jumps isn't going to help much unless you do them a different way than most people seem to do them. When I do a waltz jump to do a waltz jump, I go more for distance and extension. For the 1/2 rotation jump to gear up for axel work, I focus on jumping upwards and keeping my leg close instead of extended. The continuation of the rotation will happen automatically if the limbs are pulled in. Read about the Lussi method for learning jumps (one of our rink's coaches is Nancy Lussi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by treesprite View Post
    Doing waltz jumps isn't going to help much unless you do them a different way than most people seem to do them. When I do a waltz jump to do a waltz jump, I go more for distance and extension. For the 1/2 rotation jump to gear up for axel work, I focus on jumping upwards and keeping my leg close instead of extended. The continuation of the rotation will happen automatically if the limbs are pulled in. Read about the Lussi method for learning jumps (one of our rink's coaches is Nancy Lussi).
    This. This is what most people need to focus on, as the way you were taught the Waltz jump directly affects how much "relearning" you'll have to do to get a decent axel.

    People who were taught the straight legged Waltz jumps tend to have swingy axels that do not go up.

    Another thing is that you have to get used to jumping higher and pulling in more. This is an easy think to get down if you focus on it with your other singles, but if you are used to jumping as small as possible with really open positions, the Axel will be harder to get. It requires more rotation and a tighter air position unless you're a HUGE jumper, and therefore it requires more airtime than a normal single (almost as much airtime as some doubles, really, as those are generally 1.5 rotation jumps, anyways).

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    I'm having problems with my axel too - I just can't seem to cross my feet tight enough so I two-foot a lot. I had them pretty good 2 weeks ago but I've completely lost it - frustrating! The same is happening with my double sal and toe.

    I'm going to try getting more height on them though as I think this will help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I have to say, that I personally disagree with this. Axel is quite a simple jump, you just need to understand the basic movements required to do it.
    Simple for whom? It's one thing to understand the movements, and another thing to do it. Many skaters don't get the axel. Obviously if you have a jump, it's going to seem "simple" than if you don't have the jump.

    Quote Originally Posted by treesprite View Post
    Doing waltz jumps isn't going to help much unless you do them a different way than most people seem to do them. When I do a waltz jump to do a waltz jump, I go more for distance and extension. For the 1/2 rotation jump to gear up for axel work, I focus on jumping upwards and keeping my leg close instead of extended. The continuation of the rotation will happen automatically if the limbs are pulled in. Read about the Lussi method for learning jumps (one of our rink's coaches is Nancy Lussi).
    Do you know exactly what method this is? I have the Lussi jumps tape, and he teaches the Axel as delayed. This basically involves going into the axel like a waltz jump with straight legs. Requires a TON of height.

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