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    I think this is an interview with Velikova about Stolbova & Klimov. Could someone translate please?
    http://fcp-press.ru/interview/p2_articleid/5196

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    Federation Cup
    Dance
    1.º - Pushkash & Guerreiro --- 142.81pts
    2.º - Sinitsina & Zhiganshin --- 142.67pts
    3.º - Starygyna & Volobuiev --- 120.07pts
    4.º - Polikarpova & Kirilov --- 109.01pts
    5.º - Baturintseva & Nevsky --- 103.49pts

    All couples, with the exception of B&N, got at least one deduction on the FD!

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    Wow Sinitsina and Zhiganshin lost! I guess Morozov has a lot more power than Kustarova.
    Quote Originally Posted by mikiandorocks View Post
    Federation Cup
    Dance
    1.º - Pushkash & Guerreiro --- 142.81pts
    2.º - Sinitsina & Zhiganshin --- 142.67pts
    3.º - Starygyna & Volobuiev --- 120.07pts
    4.º - Polikarpova & Kirilov --- 109.01pts
    5.º - Baturintseva & Nevsky --- 103.49pts

    All couples, with the exception of B&N, got at least one deduction on the FD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    She knew she was injured and they asked her to skate anyway? For such a small domestic unimportant competition she was risking her health?
    I don't know what to make of Shelepin at this point. I like her, and have always liked her, but it is hard to ignore that her performances have seemed to be on a downward slide. I am actually GLAD in some way to hear that injury played a part here, because I don't want her to be finished.

    That said, no one needs to be told the ladies field is deep in Russia. She's going to need to step up if she wants to be sent to Senior A or even, really, many B competitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
    Wow Sinitsina and Zhiganshin lost! I guess Morozov has a lot more power than Kustarova.
    I used to think Sinitsina/Zhiganshin would have a wonderful senior debut not anymore
    they are going downhill unless they leave Kustarova/Aleeva, most of their good students have left them already
    Pushkash/Guerreiro actually was the clear winner the were underscored on the FD and and S/Z were overscored on SD even with mistakes

    Pushkash/Guerreiro outperform them, soon Stepanova/Bukin will put them even lower on the Russian rankings

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pufH2...eature=g-all-u
    Bobrova and Soloviev's FD
    They messed up their curve lift before the second step sequence and Ekaterina didn't spend three seconds in a difficult position meaning that they only got level 2. I'm not sure why they got level 2 on their twizzles though.
    Looking at their twizzles, they do everything on one foot and they had one additional feature (the arms in the second set) so I guess that's why they only got level 2. I'm guessing that their second additional feature from a different group was a coupee because that's the hardest to see so I probably just didn't notice it. They may have gotten it in the SD but not the FD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    I don't know what to make of Shelepin at this point. I like her, and have always liked her, but it is hard to ignore that her performances have seemed to be on a downward slide. I am actually GLAD in some way to hear that injury played a part here, because I don't want her to be finished.

    That said, no one needs to be told the ladies field is deep in Russia. She's going to need to step up if she wants to be sent to Senior A or even, really, many B competitions.
    Actually, last week at Nebelhorn she didn't skate that bad. A bit unpolished, but it is early in the season. She seems to have all the elements, she just doesn't seem to deliver two clean programs in one competition. Nerves?

    She is really unlucky that she is from Russia. In any other country (except of USA, Japan and Russia) she would be the national champion. In Russia it seems that she will always be behind the younger ones and behind Leonova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I used to think Sinitsina/Zhiganshin would have a wonderful senior debut not anymore
    they are going downhill unless they leave Kustarova/Aleeva, most of their good students have left them already
    Pushkash/Guerreiro actually was the clear winner the were underscored on the FD and and S/Z were overscored on SD even with mistakes

    Pushkash/Guerreiro outperform them, soon Stepanova/Bukin will put them even lower on the Russian rankings
    I am really shocked about Sinitsina/Zhiganshin being beaten. They were so good last season and I thought they would progress to a higher level this season. What has gone wrong? What is the issue with Kustarova/Aleeva?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    I am really shocked about Sinitsina/Zhiganshin being beaten. They were so good last season and I thought they would progress to a higher level this season. What has gone wrong? What is the issue with Kustarova/Aleeva?
    It could also be that Pushkash/Guerreiro improved a lot since last season. I read many positive reviews about their test skates, and no-one expected them to look as good as they did. However, still, Sinitsina/Zhiganshin should have won and they probably made some technical errors in the free dance.

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    Interesting but I think we really want to see how B and S do against I and K and just how close they can get to W and P and P and B as well as where will the judges put Italy C and L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
    I am really shocked about Sinitsina/Zhiganshin being beaten. They were so good last season and I thought they would progress to a higher level this season. What has gone wrong? What is the issue with Kustarova/Aleeva?
    They were below on TES on the FS and had 1 point deduction, no protocols yet but I think Sinitsina must have fallen or something

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    Julia LIPNITSKAIA interview after Finlandia Trophy

    http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/5465.html (Russian)
    Julia LIPNITSKAIA: it would be very good to reach the Grand Prix Final
    08.10.2012 07:50:01 | Figure skating | News

    Today, on October 7, in Espoo (Finland) finished the international event on figure skating – Finlandia Trophy. Russian skater Julia LIPNITSKAIA won competitions of Senior Ladies, with total score 188.23. Popular Finnish skater Kira Korpi lagged behind on 7,07 points. Julia LIPNITSKAIA shortly commented her skating to TEAM RUSSIA-2014 portal.

    «I am very happy with the skating in this competition, - Julia LIPNITSKAIA saidd. – These were my first international competitions at Senior level. I'm glad that in Free Skating (on music of the ballet "Nutcracker" of Tchaikovsky – TEAM RUSSIA-2014 Comment) made the difficult combo 3Lz+3T. Committed a mistake on filp – made double instead of the triple. Certainly, it is necessary to work on making programs better, but at all I skated easily and Short Program (Khachaturian's "Sabre dance" performed by violinist Vanessa Mae – TEAM RUSSIA-2014 Comment)».

    «Tasks for this season – ito skate good at Events of Senior Grand-Prix, - Julia Lipnitskaya specified. – It would be very good to reach the Grand Prix Final which will be in Sochi. Also I want very much to take place in Junior Worlds».

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    Interesting but I think we really want to see how B and S do against I and K and just how close they can get to W and P and P and B as well as where will the judges put Italy C and L.

    "The Judges put them". when fans think this way it reminds me the pre-COP era, when a dance team was cast in stone for a full season at least on the same position.
    You guys have to get out of this mindset, because ice dance is judged more like a sport these days, based on execution and not protocol. That is why for example, C/L defeated B/S in the FD while in the SP the russians were ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    "The Judges put them". when fans think this way it reminds me the pre-COP era, when a dance team was cast in stone for a full season at least on the same position.
    You guys have to get out of this mindset, because ice dance is judged more like a sport these days, based on execution and not protocol. That is why for example, C/L defeated B/S in the FD while in the SP the russians were ahead.
    In the 6.0 era, in Ice Dancing, if a skater placed 2 at the World Championships, 90% he would have been still 2 the year after (unless the skater that have been 1 the previous year retired), and it didn't mind how he/she/they skated! This is why G/P placed 1st in the Golden Waltz in 1998 at the Olympics despite an evident and important mistake when the others skated cleanily (it's just an example, I don't have anything against G/P)! Now, this kind of judging it's (almost) over, and the result depends just on how the couples skate that day, not on their reputation; obviously, there are still cases biased judging and unfair results, but you can argue them basing on the protocols: in the 6.0 era, you could just read the marks and no one had to give explanations on why did the judges give them... The "European duel" is quite open: P/B are surely in the top 3, but I think B/S and C/L programs are really interesting, the battle for the silver and, maybe, even for the gold, will be fantastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I used to think Sinitsina/Zhiganshin would have a wonderful senior debut not anymore
    they are going downhill unless they leave Kustarova/Aleeva, most of their good students have left them already
    Pushkash/Guerreiro actually was the clear winner the were underscored on the FD and and S/Z were overscored on SD even with mistakes

    Pushkash/Guerreiro outperform them, soon Stepanova/Bukin will put them even lower on the Russian rankings
    You are jumping to a hasty conclusion way too fast, based ona marginal defeat. That means not much at all. Plus the russian rankings will be very unstable, because there are a lot of teams with very similar capabilities. I feel that their national teams will keep changing the next few years. As far as S/Z is concerned, they re very talented, will keep developing. I am not reading much into this result.

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