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    Quote Originally Posted by herios View Post
    "The Judges put them". when fans think this way it reminds me the pre-COP era, when a dance team was cast in stone for a full season at least on the same position.
    You guys have to get out of this mindset, because ice dance is judged more like a sport these days, based on execution and not protocol. That is why for example, C/L defeated B/S in the FD while in the SP the russians were ahead.
    Sorry.. Please chill out. Put them - score them, adjudicate them, judge them, view them, perceive them, in comparison to others, place them - all based on techinical elements and pcs of course

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    I totally agree that there is a desperate need to get 6.0 language on judging out of all commentary starting with tv people like Tom Hammond Scott Hamilton Sandra bezic all the way to message boards but message boards are better. Totally don't like it.

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    Do you know when is St Petersburg Cup? Tuktamisheva will skate there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seniorita View Post
    Do you know when is St Petersburg Cup? Tuktamisheva will skate there.
    This event has already started, junior girls finished their SP. So I guess Liza will skate today or tomorrow, but I don't know exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Star View Post
    This event has already started, junior girls finished their SP. So I guess Liza will skate today or tomorrow, but I don't know exactly
    Tomorrow. 11 Oct at 16:45 Moscow time starts Senior Lady SP. See http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1213...aspcup2spb.doc

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    Liza will compete at Skate Canada:

    http://fcp-press.ru/interview/p2_articleid/5234

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    Looks like the doom merchants were premature in writing off Liza T. She performed a superb SP today in the St. Petersburg Cup, scoring 69.43. Here are the protocols.

    Positive GOE on all elements, including a 3Tx3T combination, 3R, and 2A. Very good PCS marks as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Jammers View Post
    I was really looking forward to Tuk, Gracie and Osmond going head to head at Skate Canada. Well one thing is for sure the puberty monster is making it tough for another Russian skater. That's why all the excitement for Tuk last year and Lipnitskaia was perhaps premature. Once these girls start growing would they still be able to jump like they did when they were 4'10 and weighed 70 lbs?
    As Mark Twain might have put it, news of Liza and Julia's demise as skaters was somewhat premature........
    Last edited by Mao88; 10-11-2012 at 10:31 AM.

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    I can't wait to see her in TEB! Hopefully she incorporates a 3A and 3Lz-3T in her free skate and the 3Lz-3T in the SP (I don't think she'll stick the 3A in her SP this season)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Star View Post
    This event has already started, junior girls finished their SP. So I guess Liza will skate today or tomorrow, but I don't know exactly
    I can't wait!!

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    The video of Liza's SP is now on YouTube. Here is the link:-

    Elizaveta Tuktamysheva - Short Program (St. Petersburg Cup)

    Great performance. I think the talk from her camp of withdrawing her from Skate Canada was them just being very cautious following the recovery from the injury. The odds are that she will now compete at Skate Canada.

    At some point during the season, I'm sure that she will restore the 3Zx3T combination to her programs.
    Last edited by Mao88; 10-11-2012 at 11:15 AM.

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    nice strategy, since she just got back form injury she does her 2A at the near end of her SP to rack bonus in consolidation for her 3T-3T

    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
    I can't wait to see her in TEB! Hopefully she incorporates a 3A and 3Lz-3T in her free skate and the 3Lz-3T in the SP (I don't think she'll stick the 3A in her SP this season)
    I don't think she'll do 3Lz-3T since she just got back from injury maybe by Euros or Worlds she'll have it, let alone a 3A is not doable this season for her, lol

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    Senior Ladies Result Overall:

    1 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 191.91
    2 Svetlana Dobryagina 142.55
    3 Elizaveta Leonova 110.77
    4 Anna Iinsarkina 101.25
    5 Maria Malakhova 92.43

    LP Results:

    1 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 122.48
    2 Svetlana Dobryagina 94.67
    3 Elizaveta Leonova 73.31
    4 Anna Insarkina 62.58
    5 Maria Malakhova 61.61

    http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1213/cup2spb/SEG022.HTM

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    Protocols are here
    Only 3Lz-2T, but 2A-3T at the second half of the program Both lutzes and flip are clean, so Liza is fine, it was way too early to write her off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Star View Post
    Protocols are here
    Only 3Lz-2T, but 2A-3T at the second half of the program Both lutzes and flip are clean, so Liza is fine, it was way too early to write her off
    its good she is still attempting her lutz after her injury, she had 2 mistakes
    she doubled her combo ( 3S-2T ) and and doubled her 3lo ( 2Lo)
    Last edited by sky_fly20; 10-12-2012 at 06:32 AM.

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    How many points did she get in bonus? Because her total score with the two mistakes and lack of 3Lz-3T in SP still trumps her 2011 TEB scores where she only had one mistake by almost 10 points

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