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2012 - 2013 Russian skaters, rules, and events

drivingmissdaisy

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I hope Adelina will go back to the 3Lz+3Lo instead of the 3Lz+3T: she makes mistakes in both but, at least, the old one has a higher BV

The problem is that it is more difficult to rotate the 3R than the 3T, so although it has a higher BV she can actually complete the rotation of the 3T if she lands a nice 3Z. It seems to be a trend that the younger skaters are focusing on 3T combos, and I think it may be due to the fact that the women can still land that combo even after puberty, whereas the loop becomes difficult when their bodies fill out.
 

cinnamon

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Sep 13, 2010
Polina AGAFONOVA, born 02 Apr 1996.
St.Petersburg, coach Alexei Urmanov, Angelina Turenko from "Mishin's team of coaches".
2005/06 - Zhuk-Y 3rd place (4th was Adelina Sotnikova).
WJC-2010 - 3rd place (it was her best season).
2011/12 - RusNat 14th, RusYunNat 4th with best score in season - 170.69. Two events of JGP-2011, both 3rd place. Was at Substitute Entry for WC-2012.

Member of "Team Russia" from 2006/07 to now.

ISU biography http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00012242.htm
(but height now is 154 cm, she grows)

ISU JGP Austria 2012, Main Entry.

She is about second (after Elena Radionova) of Russian Junior Ladies, pretending for JGP Events.

Photos
http://www.fskate.ru/photos/image10776.jpg
http://www.fskate.ru/photos/image13308.jpg
Many photos http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/98/photo/

Videos

RusYunNat-2012
SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-hFqkcLZU
FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82YJKGsrnnY

I'm just wondering is she not competing this season??
 

gmyers

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Mar 6, 2010
She competed several times in domestic events but did so poor best she could do was be an alternate for nationals after being pulled from a jr gp event.
 

cinnamon

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She competed several times in domestic events but did so poor best she could do was be an alternate for nationals after being pulled from a jr gp event.
Thank you for the quick answer. She was great when she was younger, even TT was clapping hands after one of her performance at Nationals one year, I remember clearly. I like her very Russian style.
 
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I'm just wondering is she not competing this season??
Polina Agafonova
Coupe de Nice 2012 - 6th place, see http://nice-baie-des-anges.fr/images/stories/docs-coupe/resultats2012/html/index.htm
Russian Cup events II and IV - both 5th place.
Panin Memorial - 1st place (no serious competitors), http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1213/panin/index.htm (Russian)

She was 12th on result of Russian Cup Events. Because only places 11th and higher were at Nationals, she did not take place in Nationals.

This season, unfortunately, Polina Agafonova skates worse than before.
 

bluesky85

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Oct 27, 2012
Any news about the Russian Junior Nationals? I would like to know how Julia is doing and how other skaters are preparing for the event... Are the entries out yet?
 
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Any news about the Russian Junior Nationals? I would like to know how Julia is doing and how other skaters are preparing for the event... Are the entries out yet?
Unofficial info about official list of entries http://www.fskate.ru/results/tour/1164.html (Russian)
Julia Lipnitskaia included.

The same from official site http://fsrussia.ru/news/386_sostav/
17 Men and 17 Ladies are because were included Kovtun and Gosviani, who are at Euro team. Now they are not in the list, may be will be substitutes.
 
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hanca

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There is no Anna Shershak. Is she injured? Or didn't she qualify? Why did she do only one competition this whole season?
 
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There is no Anna Shershak. Is she injured? Or didn't she qualify? Why did she do only one competition this whole season?
She qualified because she had JGP Event (in Russia all JGP participants are qualified to Junior Nationals, it is because Federation sends to JGP best Junior skaters, and 18 entries at Junior Nationals - it is enough for JGP participants and best of them who qualifies through Russian Cup Events).

On absolutely unofficial info, she, maybe, stopped competitive skating.
 

FSGMT

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Sep 10, 2012
She qualified because she had JGP Event (in Russia all JGP participants are qualified to Junior Nationals, it is because Federation sends to JGP best Junior skaters, and 18 entries at Junior Nationals - it is enough for JGP participants and best of them who qualifies through Russian Cup Events).

On absolutely unofficial info, she, maybe, stopped competitive skating.
That would be so sad... :cry:
 
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That would be so sad... :cry:

Yes. But not so rare.
Of 18 Junior Ladies from Junior Nationals 2011 six, i.e. one third of overall quantity - not at Senior or Junior Nationals this season:
Rosa SHEVELEVA - not hign level after injury
Polina AGAFONOVA - did not try to qualify in Juniors (and not qualified in Seniors)
Daria Medvedeva - does not compete from past season (injury)
Ekaterina Frolova - stopped skating
Alexandra DEEVA - did not try to qualify on Senior or Junior Nationals (and had no chance - her skating became worse)
Daria Afanasieva - no competitions this season.
 
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hanca

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She qualified because she had JGP Event (in Russia all JGP participants are qualified to Junior Nationals, it is because Federation sends to JGP best Junior skaters, and 18 entries at Junior Nationals - it is enough for JGP participants and best of them who qualifies through Russian Cup Events).

On absolutely unofficial info, she, maybe, stopped competitive skating.

She may have qualified, but she is not on the entry list. :disapp:

OMG, just noticed the last sentence! :eek:
 

sky_fly20

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Nov 20, 2011
She may have qualified, but she is not on the entry list. :disapp:

OMG, just noticed the last sentence! :eek:

Anna wouldnt have any chnace anyways, Shershak has grown alot and got injured struggling with her jumps
by next JGP all junior slots will be crowded all the good upcoming juniors will be eligible
Sakhanovich, Sotskova, Medvedeva, Ogoreltseva and Anna P and Elena if they stay juniors

some skaters like Gersaminova, Titushkina or Stavitskaia may not even get an assignment next JGP
 

hanca

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Yes. But not so rare.
Of 18 Junior Ladies from Junior Nationals 2011 six, i.e. one third of overall quantity - not at Senior or Junior Nationals this season:
Rosa SHEVELEVA - not hign level after injury
Polina AGAFONOVA - did not try to qualify in Juniors (and not qualified in Seniors)
Daria Medvedeva - does not compete from past season (injury)
Ekaterina Frolova - stopped skating
Alexandra DEEVA - did not try to qualify on Senior or Junior Nationals (and had no chance - her skating became worse)
Daria Afanasieva - no competitions this season.

Why didn't Agafonova try to qualify in juniors? I thought she got 1 or 2 JGPs but then they took both of them from her. Not sure what was going on, but if she was willing to do JGP, why wouldn't she be willing to do a competition to qualify for junior nationals? It's a pity Agafonova missed the qualification for the senior ones very close. Gosviani was third substitute and she got in because three skaters withdrew, Agafonova was the fourth substitute, so if anyone else withdrew she would compete. (Maybe if she competed, she would be now the one going to Europeans. Funny how one place sometimes matters so much.) Sheveleva was the sixth substitute so that was a bit too far off.
 

sky_fly20

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Why didn't Agafonova try to qualify in juniors? I thought she got 1 or 2 JGPs but then they took both of them from her. Not sure what was going on, but if she was willing to do JGP, why wouldn't she be willing to do a competition to qualify for junior nationals? It's a pity Agafonova missed the qualification for the senior ones very close. Gosviani was third substitute and she got in because three skaters withdrew, Agafonova was the fourth substitute, so if anyone else withdrew she would compete. (Maybe if she competed, she would be now the one going to Europeans. Funny how one place sometimes matters so much.) Sheveleva was the sixth substitute so that was a bit too far off.

Agafonova has terrible results at the Russian Cup series and was not given any JGP assignments
same for Nikol who was placed as substitute because she was horrible at the start of the season who did not podium even
lost to ineleigible JGP younger girls like Medvedeva, Sotskova, Sakhanovich etc.
 
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Agafonova has terrible results at the Russian Cup series and was not given any JGP assignments
Her first start at season was Russian Cup II (2-6 Oct), it was too late for JGP Events, JGP VI was at same time (3-7 Oct), so after Russian Cup II was only one JGP Event.
She was not so good at Coupe de Nice, 6 place (139.94), after Léna MAROCCO and with almost the same score as Lénaëlle GILLERON-GORY (Polina's score only 1.74 higher).
So you see the level.
Federation, deciding whom to send to JGP, also have seen her level. Because of this she had no JGP Events.
Polina had not Russian Cup III (because it was simultaneously with Coupe de Nice), so she could have only three Russian Cup Events. If trying to qualify in Juniors (at IV and V Events of Russian Cup), she would lose a chance to qualify in Seniors. She (or her coach) decided to try to qualify to Seniors.

same for Nikol who was placed as substitute because she was horrible at the start of the season who did not podium even
lost to ineleigible JGP younger girls like Medvedeva, Sotskova, Sakhanovich etc.
Medvedeva, Sotskova, Sakhanovich are high level young skaters. Sakhanovich was 4th at Nationals.

Gosviani really skated not so good before Nationals. Her skating at Nationals was the only clean skating in season.
 

hanca

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Let's hope she has a good skate at both programs at Europeans. That would mean real breakthrough for her. She probably won't have another chance like this because next year Lipnitskaya is added to the mix of eligible for seniors, and if Gosviani doesn't grab the chance now, she will be written off. Life is so unfair sometimes. In the UK (and in most countries except of Japan and USA) she would be the national champion, whereas in Russia she is nobody; her only fault is that she was born at the wrong time in a wrong country. Being born the same year as Sotnikova and Tuktamysheva...not very lucky...
 
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Let's hope she has a good skate at both programs at Europeans. That would mean real breakthrough for her. She probably won't have another chance like this because next year Lipnitskaya is added to the mix of eligible for seniors, and if Gosviani doesn't grab the chance now, she will be written off.
Not only Lipnitskaia.
Also Pogorilaya (medalist of JGP Final), Gerasimova, Stavitskaya (medalists of JGP Events) will became Seniors.
Gerasimova won Gosviani at Russian Cup Event this season.
 
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