Russian National Team Skating Trials

**Mirunna** · 09-12-2012, 02:57 PM

Starygyna Volobyev FD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSHm7RhELGM&feature=plcp

Monko Khalyavin SD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwKCCjFsIU&feature=plcp

Pushkash Gureiro FD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNEvQ9LiVaE&feature=plcp

Ryazanova Tkachenko FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MNX7ErQZEw&feature=plcp

Sinitsina Zhiganshin FD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQUJfD5NX4&feature=plcp

**mousepotato** · 09-12-2012, 03:00 PM

I really hate test skates; some of these programs really don't make sense.

Kavaguti and Smirnov just dumped their short and made up a new one. Why on God's green earth they picked a song they just used at the Olympics (and various galas) I will never know! But it's still very new and according to this Smirnov just had knee surgery this summer. They still have nine weeks until the Cup of China so they should be able to work out the kinks. They still have the best sbs spins in the world!

Martiusheva/Rogonov don't seem any better and S/K seem like better skaters but the skills haven't improved.

**sky_fly20** · 09-12-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by FSGMT

I didn't like Leonova... I hope she changes all those meaningless transitions, they really look Morozov's style (but I don't think he is the choreographer, because in the interview he said he did only her SP, maybe Alena choreographed it herself

what I mean is, she didn't gave her money away for this ******** program, right?

). I couldn't understand Makarova... was it an EX program? A SP-FS mix? Korobeneykova didn't land a triple, is she injured, was she focusing just on the choreography? Kavaguti-Smirnov...

it can be good, it just needs refinement and practice...

I think you were watching Biryukova's video not Korobeynikova
I also surprisingly liked Makarova's, I also love Stolbova/Klimov's

also Martiusheva/Rogonov progarms have potential
Im still waiting for Ilinykh/Katsalapov

**plushyfan** · 09-12-2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by AlexRus

Leonova was dark, Makarova was Light. So dark Makarova associates with Leonova. Only this I mean.

I understood, but I disagree, their body types are completely different.

**sky_fly20** · 09-12-2012, 04:43 PM

Pairs Test skate:

Stolbova/Klimov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgu_tSO1qd4&feature=plcp

Tarasova/Morozov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf4K3slH0Jg&feature=plcp

Kavaguti/Smirnov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYoPHLLNiNo&feature=plcp

Martiusheva/Rogonov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhKxv7eQjGI&feature=plcp

**babayaga** · 09-12-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by sky_fly20

I think you were watching Biryukova's video not Korobeynikova
I also surprisingly liked Makarova's, I also love Stolbova/Klimov's

also Martiusheva/Rogonov progarms have potential
Im still waiting for Ilinykh/Katsalapov

I think neither Biryukova nor Korobeinikova landed much triples, both are not in shape yet. Volchkova has a 6-month old baby, that could be the reason they are not as ready as they could be. But also, their GP events are only in about 2 months, so there is still time. These test skates are probably too early for them. Shershak, who is in the same group looks much better but she had to be ready for JGP.

**sky_fly20** · 09-12-2012, 04:57 PM

free Dance

Stepanova/Bukin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJSM5UMX3sw&feature=plcp

Sinitsina/Zhiganshin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvSQjHXEIhY&feature=plcp

**mikiandorocks** · 09-13-2012, 06:11 AM

From what I've seen so far, the programs that appelead to me the most were:
-Stolbova & Klimov
-Stepanova & Bukin
-Pushkash & Guerreiro
-Bobrova & Soloviev - SD

I am a bit worried for Bobrova & Soloviev. The FD started nicely and the idea was interesting. It looked modern and different from anything they've done before. But then the music changed to Tosca and the Edvin Marton playing (a piece of music already famoulsy used by Plushenko) and I got a bit lost trying to understand the connection between the 1st and the 2nd part of the program. Off course that there's still time to improve things and the program will grow as the season progresses but it still got me puzzled.

Monko & Khaliavin - Lovely look for the SD. The 1st song they skated to is really nice. Not sure why one of their lifts was so similiar to one used by Bobrova & Soloviev. They will have their debut at the senior grand prix so I was expecting them to try to set themselves apart and not to have elements that look so much alike as their training mates.

Sinitsina & Zhiganshin - Nice program with potential. My favorite thing in their FD were the lifts. Not to sure about the theme choice. For two seasons in a row they are using the same sort of theme as used before by Davis & White.

Starigyna & Volobuiev - Easily my favorites in what concerns entertainment.

Menshov - the SP to Pina suits him. It had a voidy touch to it that I really liked.

Makarova - Lovely choreography and she is artistically maturing in a beautiful way. I just wonder if she has had any improvements in her jumps.

**FSGMT** · 09-13-2012, 07:23 AM

For what I've seen in Ice Dancing:
-great program by Riazanova-Tkachenko! Working with Shpilband has paid off wonderfully, I really liked their step sequences, they really improved them, and the whole program suits them very well, this time Tarasova chose something really good for them! I think that (with a good SD) they can challenge I/K and B/S...
-really liked Sinitsina-Zhiganshin and Monko-Khaliavin: good musical choices, the technical elements need some refinement; M/K's step sequence was really good, I didn't like their YP, it seemed a bit rough.
-I didn't like Pushkas-Guerreiro, tehcnically: the program looks really too difficult for them, especially the second step sequence and the lifts, they always pause to concentrate before doing one of them...
-Bobrova-soloviev... It's difficult to say, because there is so much in this new program... But, finally, something new and unexpected from them! Some of you were concerned about the music? I love it! But it's difficult to understand, it's so dark and strange... Technically, they've improved a lot, new lifts, new transitions and, what I hoped more, new dresses! I think this can be great, it just needs to be clearere, the judges won't understand it immediatly I think...
And, about ladies, I forgot to write that I really like Korobeneykova's choreography, it has really interesting arm movements, it looks more mature and it suits her in a fantastic way!

**sky_fly20** · 09-13-2012, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by mikiandorocks

From what I've seen so far, the programs that appelead to me the most were:
-Stolbova & Klimov
-Stepanova & Bukin
-Pushkash & Guerreiro
-Bobrova & Soloviev - SD

Sinitsina & Zhiganshin - Nice program with potential. My favorite thing in their FD were the lifts. Not to sure about the theme choice. For two seasons in a row they are using the same sort of theme as used before by Davis & White.
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this isn't the same tango D/W used though, but I feel , this is exactly what Kustarova/Aleexa wants to do with Sinitina/Zhiganshin to be like a mini Davis/White , they are talented but they have their own style.

**mikiandorocks** · 09-13-2012, 10:43 AM

Yes, sky_fly20. It's not the same tango but that's why I wrote "same sort of theme". They are doing it for two seasons in a row. I was hoping for them to avoid this kind of situation. Eventhough it is very difficult to find originial music that is "skatable" in competitive programs. But, hey... as the season progresses and they feel more comfortable the FD might become very good.

**dorispulaski** · 09-13-2012, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by sky_fly20

this isn't the same tango D/W used though, but I feel , this is exactly what Kustarova/Aleexa wants to do with Sinitina/Zhiganshin to be like a mini Davis/White , they are talented but they have their own style.

It's worse. The year before that they used Samson & Delilah. That makes three seasons in a row.

Well, imitation is the sincerest forum of flattery, I suppose.