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    Martiusheva/Rogonov won the FS and bumped Berton/Hotarek to silver in over all
    still problem with SBS but they did 3S : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZyJzQbKtEg&feature=plcp
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    I had to take a nap while waiting for the scores..So..W/P only hit 3 out of 6 KP, and a deduction for an extended lift.

    I'm just guessing, but they looked a teensy bit slower than usual getting into postion , but they wouldn't want to cut the rotation short ?.. anyway , should be fixable .
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    I do NOT like W/P's SD. Every move is SO predictable and boring. The program would be very suitable for a junior team---which W/P are definitely not. How did their coaching team come up with this dreck?

    Even the crowd didn't seem any too enthusiastic, and they were the class of the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    I do NOT like W/P's SD. Every move is SO predictable and boring. The program would be very suitable for a junior team---which W/P are definitely not. How did their coaching team come up with this dreck?

    Even the crowd didn't seem any too enthusiastic, and they were the class of the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
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    Look up a few posts ----#27. The link is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
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    here is Weaver/Poje SD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s4tixqY9aw&feature=plcp

    I would never thought I would say it but for the first time I would say Bobrova/Soloviev has the better SD than Weaver/Poje

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    here is Weaver/Poje SD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s4tixqY9aw&feature=plcp

    I would never thought I would say it but for the first time I would say Bobrova/Soloviev has the better SD than Weaver/Poje
    Thanks for the link
    Let's see how Bobrova and Soloviev get scored at Finlandia, but I agree that they have the better SD. Although I feel like Weaver and Poje should get bonus points for changing into Navii for bits of the dance - very original.
    About Weaver and Poje's SD, I was disappointed. This is exactly the type of dance I feared would be popping up like weeds when I heard that YP was the pattern. I don't think that it's bad, and I think that they skated it pretty well, but I fail to see any originality. Even their lift is reminiscent of Malade.

    Still optimistic about their FD though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macassar88 View Post
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    It has been posted earlier on the thread. Scroll back.

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    The season is not over. They have plenty of time to make changes.

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    First, I'd like to see Andrew put his tie back on. Even though they say a handsome man looks good in anything, the necktie gave him a subtle military touch. Second, I'd love to see them hit all the key points in the polka. Third, a slightly more creative lift would be an asset. Otherwise, I love that they have chosen to interpret an orchestral suite, rather than cut and paste bits of a movie score. And, of course, tomorrow will tell the tale, but I assume this is intended to set off their modern free dance.

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    I've been sort of hanging back, here.. For me ,W/P's SD doesn't come up to either of their past 2 SDs..but I have such an aversion to SoM ( same thing with Mary Poppins ) that I don't trust myself to be totally objective. ( I felt the same way about V/M's Funny Face last year , and look how that turned out).

    As I said, there were some choreographic touches I liked, and I'm not really tired of the lift yet , because Andrew gets up such speed,it's still pretty cool looking. I can always do with a minimum of mime ( if not an absence ), I suppose I can live with the flower - picking ... but if they were, as I feared , shading their eyes and gazing off into the distance at the phrase that would correspond to " Fa - a long , long way to run " .. someone deserves a major choreography demerit.

    I'd prefer a change , but we won't see one before Skate America , whatever happens , I suppose ... OTOH , if they skate the wheels off it, who knows what the judges will do ?

    I like so few of these SDs , I can't wait to be done with them...But what will they do next ?

    ETA: Yes , bring back the tie !
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    I liked W/P's SD. Granted, I dont think it has the wow factor that some of their programs have in the past, but it's lovely and elegant and it suits them well. I really love the way the music is cut, I think the costumes are really nice, and I like the choreography, particularly through the straight line step sequence. That being said, I thought they looked a little slow and clunky, and didn't look fully committed to the performance yet, all of which are to be expected at this point in the season. I have no doubt that all of that will improve over the season (as W/P have always had a tendency to do so, and peak at the end of their season), and I think that once they perform it with the proper level of speed and enthusiasm, it will be really effective.

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    I can't say much about W/P yet because at this competition they just didn't look fully prepared so the dance will probably look a lot better in a few weeks. However, the random music cuts annoy me. This is a SHORT dance so there is even less time than in the free dance yet they used maybe 4 or 5 different songs from The Sound of Music in that short amount of time. It just did not feel coherent and a bit hectic. I would have stuck with two or three different songs, which is what most people do. Here, I have nothing against W/P since they are great. It's the dance itself that bothers me.

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    I thought they used one piece of music, not random cuts. Colleen, I'm with you regarding mime, or 'acting out' as I secretly call it. Vocal music seems to bring out the worst of it, as when the skater lip-syncs , but also air-guitar, air-piano, etc. I laugh when skaters open an imaginary door and step through, or try to do an action for each word of a lyric. And I find it particularly hilarious when they walk into a bar, pick up two girls , and get punched in the head. I do not rule out, however, the possibility of an interesting short program of white-face mime a la the buskers we have all seen.

    ETA: I hope W/P's touches of mime were not suggested at HPC.
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    If the music was multiple cuts , it might bother me.. but it's obviously a medley of selections from SoM arranged and played as one piece...hence no abrupt, awkward changes , one piece segues into the other...the kind of thing the Boston Pops has done with probably every Broadway musical ever written ... definitely a "cut" above..

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