Men's SP JGP Courchevel 2012 | Golden Skate

Men's SP JGP Courchevel 2012

dorispulaski

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Tech panel
Referee Ms. Laimute KRAUZIENE ISU

Technical Controller Ms. Hely ABBONDATI ISU

Technical Specialist Mr. Michael HOPFES ISU

Assistant Technical Specialist Ms. Tamara DOROFEJEV ISU



Data Operator Mr. Ronny BANFI ISU

Replay Operator Mr. Lionel AVOT ISU

SP results page, currently with start order

http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpfra2012/SEG001.HTM




Warm-Up Group 1
1 Julian LAGUS FIN

2 Nam NGUYEN CAN

3 Harrison CHOATE USA

4 Boyang JIN CHN

5 Vincent CUEREL SUI

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Alexander PETROV RUS

7 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP

8 Simon HOCQUAUX FRA

9 Ivan PAVLOV UKR

10 Jason BROWN USA

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Pavel STRAKACH BLR

12 Peter James HALLAM GBR

13 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR

14 Charles TETAR FRA

15 Jui-Shu CHEN TPE

Warm-Up Group 4
16 Vlad IONESCU ROU

17 Alessandro PEZZOLI ITA

18 Mikhail KOLAYDA RUS

19 Panagiotis POLIZOAKIS GER

20 Ryuju HINO JPN

21 Marcus BJORK SWE
 
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dorispulaski

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1 Boyang JIN CHN 62.98 36.80 26.18 5.68 4.79 5.43 5.21 5.07 0.00 #4
2 Jason BROWN USA 59.33 28.95 30.38 6.21 5.96 5.82 6.18 6.21 0.00 #10
3 Harrison CHOATE USA 57.67 30.86 26.81 5.50 5.07 5.46 5.46 5.32 0.00 #3
4 Ivan PAVLOV UKR 52.73 29.81 22.92 4.82 4.39 4.71 4.46 4.54 0.00 #9
5 Alexander PETROV RUS 51.74 29.49 23.25 5.04 4.36 4.64 4.71 4.50 1.00 #6
6 Simon HOCQUAUX FRA 51.02 27.52 24.50 5.04 4.71 4.89 4.93 4.93 1.00 #8
7 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP 49.42 25.10 24.32 4.82 4.75 4.93 4.82 5.00 0.00 #7
8 Nam NGUYEN CAN 46.06 22.49 23.57 4.89 4.39 4.75 4.79 4.75 0.00 #2
9 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR 41.07 20.29 20.78 4.21 4.04 4.18 4.14 4.21 0.00 #13
10 Peter James HALLAM GBR 39.43 21.11 20.32 4.36 3.89 3.93 4.07 4.07 2.00 #12
11 Vincent CUEREL SUI 32.78 15.17 18.61 3.89 3.61 3.68 3.75 3.68 1.00 #5
12 Julian LAGUS FIN 32.46 11.97 20.49 4.39 3.96 3.93 4.14 4.07 0.00 #1
13 Pavel STRAKACH BLR 31.57 13.24 18.33 3.93 3.57 3.54 3.79 3.50 0.00 #11

I expect Jason only did a 2A.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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But judges still love him clearly -- he has the highest PCS by nearly 4 points, nearly cutting in half the 8 point advantage JIN had in TES.
 

emdee

Final Flight
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Feb 27, 2012
I saw Jason in the GPF last year and he has amazing flow so it is no wonder that his PCS is so high. Hope he gets that triple axel soon.
 

sky_fly20

Match Penalty
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Nov 20, 2011
But judges still love him clearly -- he has the highest PCS by nearly 4 points, nearly cutting in half the 8 point advantage JIN had in TES.

yeah, I think he'll make up some huge ground hopefully in LP, he's still the best overall here competing
 

gmyers

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Mar 6, 2010
No spin! not a jump oriented problem for Brown really- yet to never try for a 3A is an issue.
 

dorispulaski

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1 Boyang JIN CHN 62.98 36.80 26.18 5.68 4.79 5.43 5.21 5.07 0.00 #4
2 Ryuju HINO JPN 59.70 33.60 26.10 5.64 5.07 5.14 5.25 5.00 0.00 #20
3 Jason BROWN USA 59.33 28.95 30.38 6.21 5.96 5.82 6.18 6.21 0.00 #10
4 Harrison CHOATE USA 57.67 30.86 26.81 5.50 5.07 5.46 5.46 5.32 0.00 #3
5 Ivan PAVLOV UKR 52.73 29.81 22.92 4.82 4.39 4.71 4.46 4.54 0.00 #9
6 Alexander PETROV RUS 51.74 29.49 23.25 5.04 4.36 4.64 4.71 4.50 1.00 #6
7 Simon HOCQUAUX FRA 51.02 27.52 24.50 5.04 4.71 4.89 4.93 4.93 1.00 #8
8 Mikhail KOLAYDA RUS 50.51 25.36 27.15 5.64 5.29 5.29 5.54 5.39 2.00 #18
9 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP 49.42 25.10 24.32 4.82 4.75 4.93 4.82 5.00 0.00 #7
10 Charles TETAR FRA 49.23 24.83 24.40 5.04 4.68 4.86 5.00 4.82 0.00 #14
11 Nam NGUYEN CAN 46.06 22.49 23.57 4.89 4.39 4.75 4.79 4.75 0.00 #2
12 Panagiotis POLIZOAKIS GER 45.68 22.01 23.67 4.75 4.64 4.64 4.82 4.82 0.00 #19
13 Alessandro PEZZOLI ITA 42.57 20.55 23.02 4.71 4.46 4.57 4.64 4.64 1.00 #17
14 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR 41.07 20.29 20.78 4.21 4.04 4.18 4.14 4.21 0.00 #13
15 Peter James HALLAM GBR 39.43 21.11 20.32 4.36 3.89 3.93 4.07 4.07 2.00 #12
16 Jui-Shu CHEN TPE 39.39 20.00 19.39 4.11 3.71 3.93 3.89 3.75 0.00 #15
17 Vlad IONESCU ROU 36.71 18.32 19.39 4.07 3.75 3.89 4.04 3.64 1.00 #16
18 Marcus BJORK SWE 36.61 16.48 21.13 4.39 4.14 4.25 4.21 4.14 1.00 #21
19 Vincent CUEREL SUI 32.78 15.17 18.61 3.89 3.61 3.68 3.75 3.68 1.00 #5
20 Julian LAGUS FIN 32.46 11.97 20.49 4.39 3.96 3.93 4.14 4.07 0.00 #1
21 Pavel STRAKACH BLR 31.57 13.24 18.33 3.93 3.57 3.54 3.79 3.50 0.00 #11
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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Jason left a ton of points on the table! But the crazy thing is that if he just did a level 3 combo spin, he would have been in the lead since his competitors did not exactly rise to the occasion either. But it's pretty noteworthy that 1.) He's the only man to break 30 in PCS and 2.) Got level four on footwork.
 

Mao88

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Jammers

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Without the 3A no matter how well Jason skates he is not going to make it to the next level or at least be a contender. Just look at Adam Rippon and his struggles with the 3A.
 

dorispulaski

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Yes, he absolutely has to learn it.

It may be time to leave Kori Ade for a good jump coach.
 

ImaginaryPogue

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The overhype of Jason Brown continues.

On another note, I find it hilarious that the top Canadian junior was not Nam Nguyen but Seguin over in the ladies. That's gotta rankle McLeod.
 

skatingbc

Final Flight
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The overhype of Jason Brown continues.

On another note, I find it hilarious that the top Canadian junior was not Nam Nguyen but Seguin over in the ladies. That's gotta rankle McLeod.

Doubt it - Nam's with Brian Orser now! Good move, IMO, even if it didn't show today. Everyone is entitled to a bad skate now and then, especially at the beginning of the season.
 

ImaginaryPogue

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Then that alone is enough to get me to stop bothering Nam. Cool that he made the switch. If only Reynolds would the same.
 

Violet Bliss

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Nov 19, 2010
Nam has grown considerably! His body is looking grown up and his moves resemble Patrick's, very mature and sophisticated for his age. He will probably never be very tall and he needs more power and speed, but he doesn't look like a little boy any more. I looked up his ISU bio and he's now listed as 156 cm, about 5 ft 1.5 in., up from 150 cm or 4 ft 11 in, the last height I knew.

His SP score was brought down by the total miss of the combo, listed as 1T + combo. I think he is dealing with his growth very well and will be one of the top Junior Men when he does all his jumps in later competitions, which I'm sure he will, including 3A. I think his PCS is under-marked, likely affected by the missed jumps and low TES and by the slower speed due to his size. Excellent performance from a 14 year old showman. :thumbsup:
 
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Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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Yes, he absolutely has to learn it.

It may be time to leave Kori Ade for a good jump coach.

But his other jumps are fine (sort of mystified by that Lutz edge call). It doesn't make much sense to me to overhaul your coaching because of one jump. Ade obviously has done a good job everywhere else, so I think he's better off perhaps doing some work with a specialist in addition to Ade.


The overhype of Jason Brown continues.

Who is overhyping Jason now? Nobody here is denying that he needs a 3A. I don't either. But does that mean people can't note the fact that his program (despite the mistakes) has potential? Or that judges though well of the program itself giving it the highest PCS?

I will repeat, I agree Jason will not get anywhere in the long run if he doesn't have a 3A. But at the junior level he is doing fine. In fact, isn't it interesting that he practically screwed up two of his spins, had a step out and still managed to be in podium contention?
 
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