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    I know that Toni is happy that Messing won the Bronze!

    Congrats to Oda, Mesnova and Messing! Oda is skating really well so early in the season!
    I hope he keeps it up.

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    VIDEOS SO FAR

    SHORT DANCE

    1. Nelli ZHIGANSHINA & Alexander GAZSI (GER) - 59.58
    2. Madison CHOCK & Evan BATES (USA) - 56.97
    3. Julia ZLOBINA & Alexei SITNIKOV (AZE) - 56.95
    4. Ksenia MONKO & Kirill KHALIAVIN (RUS) - 54.92
    5. Alexandra PAUL & Mitchell ISLAM (CAN) - 54.50
    9. Ramona Elsener & Florain Roost (SUI) - 46.62

    PAIRS COMPETITION

    1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR & Maxim TRANKOV (RUS) - 196.55
    Short Program, Short Program - 2nd Video, Free Skate, Free Skate - 2nd Video
    2. Caydee DENNEY & John COUGHLIN (USA) - 178.90
    3. Vanessa JAMES & Morgan CIPRES (FRA) - 151.52
    4. Gretchen DONLAN & Andrew SPEROFF (USA) - 145.35
    5. Daria POPOVA & Bruno MASSOT (FRA) - 132.68
    WD Vera BAZAROVA & Yuri LARIONOV (RUS)
    Short Program

    MEN'S COMPETITION

    1. Nobunari ODA (JPN) - 233.33
    Short Program
    2. Konstantin MENSHOV (RUS) - 212.94
    Short Program
    3. Keegan MESSING (USA) - 210.78
    4. Stephen CARRIERE (USA) - 209.11
    5. Michal BREZINA (CZE) - 201.71
    Short Program
    6. Tomas VERNER (CZE) - 199.98
    7. Denis TEN (KAZ) - 198.39
    Short Program

    LADIES SHORT PROGRAM

    1. Adelina SOTNIKOVA (RUS) - 58.48 2nd Video
    2. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 55.68
    3. Elena GLEBOVA (EST) - 54.26
    4. Polina SHELEPEN (RUS) - 53.63
    5. Nathalie WEINZIERL (GER) - 49.64
    Last edited by Mao88; 09-28-2012 at 06:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demarinis5 View Post
    I know that Toni is happy that Messing won the Bronze!
    Oh, you know it!

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    Adelina Sotnikova's Short Program

    Have also placed a link in post 124 above as well
    Last edited by Mao88; 09-28-2012 at 05:36 PM.

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    What's up with Maxim's hair??

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    Yes I was about to comment on Maxim's hair being very Tabatha Coffey-ish.
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    Haven't had a chance to see any videos yet, but looking at the protocols, a couple of things stand out about Keegan Messing's FS:
    1) His fall was on his 4T attempt, yet he must have done it with a great deal of style, as not all judges gave him a typical -3, a bunch of -2's and one judge only a -1!
    2) His 3A-3T was one of very few in the competition, and the single highest scoring technical element with a monster 14.57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairly4 View Post
    in fact prove by nebelhorn caroline zhang needs the protection and still proof that the usfsa will not cheat for her like agnes, gracie, leah, mirai, rachel, ashley, alissa . they don't skate well and get high scores they overlook alot of their mistakes still and still is punishing caroline, not overlooking hers.

    this doesn't bode well for caroline for rest of season like others, tells me the usfsa still won't hold her up and give her a break, like they did other skaters, too bad.
    What does USFSA have to do with Caroline screwing up her own SP at Nebelhorn? They sent her to an international competition, but they can't skate her program for her. They certainly aren't sitting on the Tech Panel nor Judge's chairs. You're talking nonsense again, as with many times in the past. So blind to Caroline's problems that you can't admit she's her own worst enemy. If she had taken the time years ago to learn proper technique, she'd be in a better place right now. In fact, the only thing the USFSA did in the past to Caroline was hold her up in lower levels and especially as a junior, when they should have smacked her down in the scoring and counseled her about fixing her lousy technique before it came back to bite her in the hindquarters.

    While I appreciate that she's made strides to fix things over the last couple of years, I think it's too little, too late, given the current and up-and-coming competition in the USA. It's happened to other skaters as well--Caroline is not special in that regard.
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    VIDEOS SO FAR

    SHORT DANCE

    1. Nelli ZHIGANSHINA & Alexander GAZSI (GER) - 59.58
    2. Madison CHOCK & Evan BATES (USA) - 56.97
    3. Julia ZLOBINA & Alexei SITNIKOV (AZE) - 56.95
    4. Ksenia MONKO & Kirill KHALIAVIN (RUS) - 54.92
    5. Alexandra PAUL & Mitchell ISLAM (CAN) - 54.50
    9. Ramona Elsener & Florain Roost (SUI) - 46.62

    PAIRS COMPETITION

    1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR & Maxim TRANKOV (RUS) - 196.55
    Short Program, Short Program - 2nd Video, Free Skate, Free Skate - 2nd Video
    2. Caydee DENNEY & John COUGHLIN (USA) - 178.90
    Short Program
    3. Vanessa JAMES & Morgan CIPRES (FRA) - 151.52
    4. Gretchen DONLAN & Andrew SPEROFF (USA) - 145.35
    5. Daria POPOVA & Bruno MASSOT (FRA) - 132.68
    WD Vera BAZAROVA & Yuri LARIONOV (RUS)
    Short Program

    MEN'S COMPETITION

    1. Nobunari ODA (JPN) - 233.33
    Short Program, Free Skate
    2. Konstantin MENSHOV (RUS) - 212.94
    Short Program, Free Skate
    3. Keegan MESSING (USA) - 210.78
    4. Stephen CARRIERE (USA) - 209.11
    5. Michal BREZINA (CZE) - 201.71
    Short Program
    6. Tomas VERNER (CZE) - 199.98
    7. Denis TEN (KAZ) - 198.39
    Short Program
    10. Peter LIEBERS (GER) - 195.59
    Short Program

    LADIES SHORT PROGRAM

    1. Adelina SOTNIKOVA (RUS) - 58.48 2nd Video
    2. Kaetlyn OSMOND (CAN) - 55.68
    3. Elena GLEBOVA (EST) - 54.26
    4. Polina SHELEPEN (RUS) - 53.63
    5. Nathalie WEINZIERL (GER) - 49.64
    Last edited by Mao88; 09-29-2012 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsisjiejie View Post
    Haven't had a chance to see any videos yet, but looking at the protocols, a couple of things stand out about Keegan Messing's FS:
    1) His fall was on his 4T attempt, yet he must have done it with a great deal of style, as not all judges gave him a typical -3, a bunch of -2's and one judge only a -1!
    2) His 3A-3T was one of very few in the competition, and the single highest scoring technical element with a monster 14.57.
    that's because he is AWESOME!

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    All the things I loved about Adelina's skating (her jumps, her youthful energy, her flexibility) are not being showcased in her SP. Her spins are still superb though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mao88 View Post
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    4. Polina SHELEPEN (RUS) - 53.63
    they changed Shelepen's SP music
    why ? this one is horrible, Sokolovskaya is such a disaster coach for her

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    Nobunari Oda - Free Skate

    Konstantin Menshov - Free Skate

    Also placed the links to Oda's and Menshov's Free Skates in post 130 above

    EDIT

    Denney & Coughlin - Short Program

    Peter Liebers - Short Program

    Added links to post 130 above as well
    Last edited by Mao88; 09-29-2012 at 05:25 AM.

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    Overall Standing as of now from russian forum

    Haruka Imai - 153.64
    Helgesson - 145.16
    Turkkila - 137.36
    Zhang - 124.13 - 3 Falls in LP

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Overall Standing as of now from russian forum

    Haruka Imai - 153.64
    Helgesson - 145.16
    Turkkila - 137.36
    Zhang - 124.13 - 3 Falls in LP
    147 means 105.94 for Imai! Zhang... Why, Caroline? We all thought this was going to be a fantastic season for her, and she begins it with this kind of result: 78.70! Helgesson it could have been better, but 96.99 is not a disaster...

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