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Free Dance JGP Courchevel 2012

dorispulaski

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Here's the start order!

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Laura ABTS / Maarten BUCKENS BEL 13 26.14
2 Charlotte DYSON / Paul DREDGE GBR 12 27.43
3 Victoria-Laura LOHMUS / Andrei DAVODOV EST 14 22.23
4 Sofia SFORZA / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 11 38.91

Warm-Up Group 2
5 Estelle ELIZABETH / Romain LE GAC FRA 10 39.19
6 Daria KOROTITSKAIA / Maksim SPODIREV UKR 6 45.00
7 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 9 40.86
8 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 7 44.54
9 Holly MOORE / Daniel KLABER USA 8 42.98

Warm-Up Group 3
10 Victoria HASEGAWA / Connor HASEGAWA CAN 4 45.68
11 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 2 52.25
12 Madeline EDWARDS / Zhao Kai PANG CAN 3 46.53
13 Valeria ZENKOVA / Valerie SINITSIN RUS 1 52.91
14 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 5 45.29
 

Mao88

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ICE DANCE COMPETITION - VIDEOS & RESULT

1. Gabriella PAPADAKIS & Guillaume CIZERON (FRA) - 131.13 Short Dance, Free Dance
2. Valeria ZENKOVA & Valerie SINITSIN (RUS) - 124.94 Short Dance, Free Dance
3. Madeline EDWARDS & Zhao Kai PANG (CAN) - 113.73 Short Dance, Free Dance
4. Daria KOROTITSKAIA & Maksim SPODIREV (UKR) - 111.23 Short Dance, Free Dance
5. Sofia EVDOKIMOVA & Egor BAZIN (RUS) - 110.91 Short Dance, Free Dance
6. Lorraine MCNAMARA & Quinn CARPENTER (USA) - 108.33 Short Dance, Free Dance
7. Victoria HASEGAWA & Connor HASEGAWA (CAN) - 108.16 Short Dance, Free Dance
8. Holly MOORE & Daniel KLABER (USA) - 103.04 Short Dance, Free Dance
9. Viktoria KAVALIOVA & Yurii BIELIAIEV (BLR) - 101.63 Short Dance, Free Dance
10. Estelle ELIZABETH & Romain LE GAC (FRA) - 100.83 Short Dance, Free Dance

Here are the protocols
 
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dorispulaski

Wicked Yankee Girl
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And here's the placings for the FD itself

1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 78.88 38.40 40.48 6.80 6.50 6.90 6.75 6.95 0.00 #11
2 Valeria ZENKOVA / Valerie SINITSIN RUS 72.03 33.04 38.99 6.55 6.20 6.55 6.70 6.70 0.00 #13
3 Madeline EDWARDS / Zhao Kai PANG CAN 67.20 32.94 34.26 5.60 5.55 5.75 5.90 5.90 0.00 #12
4 Daria KOROTITSKAIA / Maksim SPODIREV UKR 66.23 33.20 33.03 5.60 5.30 5.45 5.65 5.65 0.00 #6
5 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 65.62 32.22 33.40 5.60 5.40 5.65 5.70 5.60 0.00 #14
6 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 63.79 31.44 32.35 5.35 5.15 5.55 5.50 5.60 0.00 #8
7 Victoria HASEGAWA / Connor HASEGAWA CAN 62.48 31.06 31.42 5.25 5.15 5.15 5.45 5.25 0.00 #10
8 Estelle ELIZABETH / Romain LE GAC FRA 61.64 32.08 29.56 4.80 4.75 5.15 5.00 5.10 0.00 #5
9 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 60.77 31.50 29.27 4.90 4.65 5.00 5.05 4.95 0.00 #7
10 Holly MOORE / Daniel KLABER USA 60.06 28.86 31.20 5.15 4.95 5.40 5.35 5.35 0.00 #9
11 Victoria-Laura LOHMUS / Andrei DAVODOV EST 42.05 21.76 20.29 3.45 3.10 3.55 3.55 3.45 0.00 #3
12 Charlotte DYSON / Paul DREDGE GBR 35.71 17.12 19.59 3.50 3.15 3.15 3.40 3.15 1.00 #2
13 Laura ABTS / Maarten BUCKENS BEL 30.56 11.50 19.06 3.40 3.15 3.10 3.25 2.95 0.00 #1

Overall

1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 131.13 2 1
2 Valeria ZENKOVA / Valerie SINITSIN RUS 124.94 1 2
3 Madeline EDWARDS / Zhao Kai PANG CAN 113.73 3 3
4 Daria KOROTITSKAIA / Maksim SPODIREV UKR 111.23 6 4
5 Sofia EVDOKIMOVA / Egor BAZIN RUS 110.91 5 5
6 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 108.33 7 6
7 Victoria HASEGAWA / Connor HASEGAWA CAN 108.16 4 7
8 Holly MOORE / Daniel KLABER USA 103.04 8 10
9 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 101.63 9 9
10 Estelle ELIZABETH / Romain LE GAC FRA 100.83 10 8
11 Victoria-Laura LOHMUS / Andrei DAVODOV EST 64.28 14 11
12 Charlotte DYSON / Paul DREDGE GBR 63.14 12 12
13 Laura ABTS / Maarten BUCKENS BEL 56.70 13 13
WD Sofia SFORZA / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 11

Does anyone know why Sforza & Fioretti withdrew?
 

colleen o'neill

Medalist
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Nov 3, 2006
I've watched and re-watched many of these , but I'm too tired to pore over the protocols right now..However just looking at the dances ,and the detailed results , http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpfra2012/SEG006.HTM

I must say I think both K/S and E/B were gifted somewhat...:unsure: lots of clambering in and out of position...meh..

I think my darling Zombies might have deserved better, here...

Happy for E/P and for P/C..I like Z/S as skaters but they seemed quite ponderous ( my dislike of "Cats" might be interfering with my judgement , IDK ...) They're nice , polished skaters , but this program certainly doesn't float my boat.

I'll have to come back later.
 

dorispulaski

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I'm waiting for the playlist to be updated.

It's very nice to watch all of them back to back!
I watched all the SD's this morning, and McNamara & Carpenter still make me smile. And although they are a bit slow, Moore & Klaber did a great job of conveying the spirit of 1950's high school in their Grease SD. Good choreo in there.

I find I like Evdokimova & Bazin, respect but don't like Zenkova & Sinitsin, and didn't like Papadakis & Cizeron as much as I expected.

I'm very happy that I nailed the predictions for once for the medallists, at least!

One thing that we all need to look at is the RADICAL change in the way the SD is scored.

As to the Zombies, they are such cute babies:

Lorraine
Feb. 18, 1999 (she's 13)

Quinn
Feb. 24, 1996 (he's 16)

And they have an official website.
 
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sky_fly20

Match Penalty
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Nov 20, 2011
congrats to the French Team, after Junior Worlds they have really established themselves and improved
now they are no longer coming up from nowhere ;) Z/S are so boring !
 
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colleen o'neill

Medalist
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doris , I was going to take the dogs , but you've prompted me..

I completely agree with your sentiments

..Z/S kind of leave me lukewarm ..I find I must appreciate and admire lots of things about their skating , but there's no spark of life there..it's sort of more of a demonstration than a performance.

P/C have gone a bit too " wild speed demon " for me. Although I still like them a lot ( and prefer them to Z/S ) , this isn't quite what I'd hoped to see from them. So , I'm happy for them , but not quite satisfied.

E/P seemed in better control with their speed, and that program is full of interesting stuff. Not crazy about that music.. not terribly memorable to me , but it's not offensive ... and I was so interested in what they were doing , I really didn't notice it.. very good outing and I'm looking forward to JGP Bosphorus for them...

I felt the same about M/C's music and program. Not in love with the music , but lots to love in the skating. ( I could think e.e.cummings coined the word "floatful" just for her )

E/B I really feel potential for..but thought that program was quite a mish-mash ( and still preferred it to K/S )
 
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dorispulaski

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Well, that tech panel was surely tough on the SD :eek:

except for Z&S...

Did anyone recognize the French songs that Elizabeth & Le Gac used for the FD?

and here's the baby Zombies website:

http://mcnamara-carpenter.ice-dance.com/

I just wish Lorraine didn't wear over the boot tights in the FD ....
 
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Chemistry66

Mmmmm, tacos.
Record Breaker
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For their first JGP, especially with their young age among the rest of the ice dancers, 6th place is a great finish for M/C! Especially considering how close they were out of 4th. I hope they'd get another solid assignment (since I know the US has them assigned to Turkey provisionally for now I think), but I don't know how many dance teams the US has waiting that might have a chance. It'll be interesting to see how the other Wheaton teams do since Pogrebinsky/Gudis, Parsons/Parsons, and Miller/Macmillan also have assignments.
 

chuckm

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Based on PCS scores, here's how each of the judges placed the teams.
NOTE: In the JGP, the judges ARE identified. J1=FRA, J2=ITA, J3=UKR, etc., for all the competitors.

All the judges except UKR, RUS and BLR placed Papadakis/Cizeron 1st.
All the judges except UKR, RUS and BLR placed the actual medalists in the first 3 places.

FRANCE
1 FRA1
2 RUS1
3 CAN1
4 UKR
5 RUS2
6 CAN2
7 FRA2
8 USA1
9 USA2
10 BLR


ITALY
1 FRA1
2 CAN1
3 RUS1
4 USA1
5 USA2
6 RUS2
7 FRA2
8 CAN2
9 UKR
10 BLR


UKR
1 RUS1
2 FRA1
3 UKR
4 RUS2
5 CAN1
6 BLR
7 CAN2
8 USA2
9 USA1
10 FRA2


RUS
1 RUS1
2 FRA1
3 RUS2
4 UKR
5 USA1
6 CAN1
7 BLR
8 USA2
9 CAN2
10 FRA2


USA
1 FRA1
2 RUS1
3 CAN1
4 USA1
5 USA2
6 CAN2
7 RUS2
8 UKR
9 FRA2
10 BLR


CAN
1 FRA1
2 RUS1
3 CAN1
4 USA1
5 RUS2
6 CAN2
7 UKR
8 USA2
9 FRA2
10 BLR


BLR
1 RUS1
2 FRA1
3 UKR
4 RUS2
5 CAN1
6 BLR
7 USA2
8 CAN2
9 USA1
10 FRA2
 

Violet Bliss

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Let's call RUS, URK, and BLR "Bloc A", and USA, CAN, FRA, and ITA "Bloc B". SP results were very close, with RUS 1st and FRA 2nd. LP difference was much wider between the two teams and decided the eventual placements. Bloc A has RUS 1st and FRA 2nd while Bloc B has FRA 1st and RUS 2nd. All we can say is Bloc B has the number and the power and they decided the results.
 

ImaginaryPogue

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Jun 3, 2009
Papadakis/Cizeron: Seniors in terms of projection and attack (indeed, their score of 78.88 would've placed them in 14th in the FD at Nice). A little wild, but I like the flair and energy they bring. Terrific spin. They've certainly got some gams, haven't they? Post-Sochi should be fascinating between these two and Zahorski/Miart.

Zenkova/Sinitsin: Ehh. Cats is annoying, and they chose a particularly dirge like rendition of a playful piece. Some nice moments (the straightline lift, the choreographed lift) but overall, no. Lovely skating skills, though.

Edwards/Kai Pang: Ehh, don't much care for it. It's got some spark and they skated it well, enough, I suppose. But it's not as good as their SD. And I never say that, because the SD is a crime against figure skating.

Korotitskaia/Spodirev: Well, that went to pieces a bit by the end, didn't it?

Evdokimova/Bazin: They were also fatigued, but it wasn't bad (I wouldn't had it ahead of K/S).

McNamara/Carpenter: Okay, so why was that rotational lift a level one? Because it was spectacular. Also got a little hosed on PCS. They had flow and match. Yeah, they skate junior, yeah, the program is a bit drippy, but they hit very nice positions and really skate well together. Ahead of K/S for sure, maybe E/B. I know they got hammered on levels (the GOE was pretty great)

Hasegawas: Meh.

Moore/Klaber: Heh. Personality to spare. But it's still Moulin Rouge, you know?

Kavaliova/Bieliaeiv: I muted this and put on Eric Clapton. Didn't make any sense, but my ears stopped bleeding. Awesome entry into that straightline lift.

Elizabeth/Le Gac: The whooping cheerleader in the audience made me feel bad for being bored.
 

NorthernDancers

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Jan 15, 2010
Thanks so much for posting all those videos! I think:

- the French were the class of the field, and deserved their placement for sure.

- Russian1 was significantly over-rated. This was REALLY bad - telegraphing lifts, spin that traveled, a whole lot of 2-foot skating and very basic stroking. They did not deserve to medal. It looked like the program is not yet ready for prime time. They were thinking through it all the way, and it looked almost like they were making it up as they went.

- Canada1 had a solid program. It looks like real dancing, and was light and quite lovely and fast. I would have had this team in 2nd. To improve, she needs to fix her posture (shoulders) by learning to use her knees more instead of bending forward. The choreography also has her doing way too many pirouettes/twizzles throughout the program. I'm sure there are more complex and interesting ways to transition than this. At the moment, Bent/McKeen have the more complex and better presented program from what I've seen.

- Ukranians I liked much better than the Russian1 team. Perhaps they had more errors than the Russian team, but I can't see how. The program is more complex, and much better executed.

- I have to confess I stopped watching Russian2 about a minute and a half in. I just couldn't take it anymore. Boring, they skated far apart, and were missing an semblance of finesse. Again, a whole ton of crosscuts and 2-foot skating.

- The American team is charming. I love their lifts, and they had some good elements. I think they are missing more complex choreography and transitions. Again, too many crosscuts and 2-foot skating was the norm throughout the competition. I think this team is capable of more, and given their really young ages, it should be interestiing to see how they develop at Junior over the next few years. They are a well-matched team.

- Canada2. What can I say? I've been a fan of Hasagawa's for awhile. I think they have a lot of potential, but I don't see it yet this season. They seem out of sync, and not skating as a team. They have the moments where they have beautiful lines, but then it is lost in a lack of unison or lack of connection. This was really obvious in the SD, but also continued in the FD. We'll have to see how they develop over the season, but perhaps it is time to think about new partners for both of them? I think they both age out of Junior? Maybe a chance to reinvent themselves at Senior with separate partners?

I stopped watching after the first 7 numbers. It's early in the season, so I guess it is normal for programs to be a little rough yet. It will be interesting to see if/how the quality improves with upcoming events. Looking forward to the Lake Placid event next week.
 
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