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    Quote Originally Posted by Totentanz View Post
    I think medal chance of American, Japenese, Korean and Russian girls are equal in this competition like AlexRus.
    Some higher chance has Miyahara, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totentanz View Post
    Oh is Titushkina really that bad? I think you don't like her, or she really did an impossible thing by skating like that in Courchevel cause she was very good.
    May be not. It is of results of previous season. New season - newly rated.

    Ulyana is not bad - others were some better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    some feds prefer to send weaker reps to a particular event for other reasons ( stronger home court advantange or travel cost expenses ? ), also China hasn't send anyone on Lake Placid ? though I agree anything can happen here as no one is really a clear frontrunner maybe Miyahara, I am more interested how Hicks will be doing coming from her injury.
    May be, russian federation of figure skating is afraid of this event.
    Miyahara, three americans, So Youn Park.
    We newer underestimate american skaters, especially at home. "At home and native walls help" - tells russian prowerb.

    8 hours difference of time - Ladies SP starts at 10 p.m. of Moscow time, when skaters go to bed to get up at 06 a.m. (trainings often are at wery early time). Ladies FS starts at 0 a.m. of Moscow time, when they all sleep.
    It is not good - to skate at the time when you at home sleep.

    So Federation does not wait good results.

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    USA's Angela Wang has been landing 3Lz+3T consistently in competition this summer and I expect/hope she will do well in Lake Placid. She has the highest summer competition total score of the LP competitors and of the U.S. club competitions I've been tracking in my blog:

    167.36 Angela Wang 108.77 (FS) CO Champs, Jr.
    148.21 Satoko Miyahara JPN 98.92 (FS) Asian Trophy, J1
    144.23 Courtney Hicks 96.68 LA Open, Sr.
    139.24 Kiri Baga 90.07 (FS) Skate Milwaukee, Sr.
    136.62 Nicole Rajic SVK 85.72 (FS) Lake Placid FS, Sr. (she qualified for 2012 US Nationals in Junior but WD & elected to switch to SVK where he parents were born and she can speak the language)
    110.90 Alaine Chartrand CAN 73.25 (FS), Minto, Jr.
    103.50 Brittany Lau SIN Skate Dallas, Sr.
    90.58 Corinna Lin TPE 60.52 (FS) Empire State Games, Sr.
    86.78 Netta Schreiber ISR 56.63 (FS) Lake Placid FS, Novice

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    We newer underestimate american skaters, especially at home. "At home and native walls help" - tells russian prowerb.

    8 hours difference of time - Ladies SP starts at 10 p.m. of Moscow time, when skaters go to bed to get up at 06 a.m.

    So Federation does not wait good results.
    exactly the reason, I think they don't count much on Gersaimova medaling
    they will be saving the better skaters in other JGP events with the likes of Radionova, Shershak, Titushkina etc.

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    Plus Lake Placid, NY, is a pain in the neck to get to from everywhere, even from Vermont the next door state. If you were going to avoid sending competitors somewhere, IMO, Lake Placid would be one of the ones to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Plus Lake Placid, NY, is a pain in the neck to get to from everywhere, even from Vermont the next door state.
    It is not a great problem for foreign skaters - International Airport of New York, about 300-400 miles to north to Adirondack Regional Airport, 16 miles to Lake Placid. Or even faster if charter flight to Lake Placid Airport.
    If comparing to flight from Europe - no problem.
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    Here it begins dear friends. Let's see what the girls will do.

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/jgpusa2012/SEG003.HTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    some feds prefer to send weaker reps to a particular event for other reasons ( stronger home court advantange or travel cost expenses ? ), also China hasn't send anyone on Lake Placid ? though I agree anything can happen here as no one is really a clear frontrunner maybe Miyahara, I am more interested how Hicks will be doing coming from her injury.
    For what it's worth, here was Hicks most recent competition at Glacier Falls.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7yNw-fc90Y&feature=plcp

    Judging from this video, I honestly do not think that Hicks will make the top 3. Her posture and form seems to have declined even further after her injury. Additionally, her jumps are not nearly as stable, and without her jumps, she's basically a sitting duck.
    I would go out on a limb and say Wang for 3rd, followed by Park in 2nd, and Miyahara in 1st. But judging from the most recent results, I don't know if Wang can overcome that deficit... I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy15 View Post
    For what it's worth, here was Hicks most recent competition at Glacier Falls.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7yNw-fc90Y&feature=plcp

    Judging from this video, I honestly do not think that Hicks will make the top 3. Her posture and form seems to have declined even further after her injury. Additionally, her jumps are not nearly as stable, and without her jumps, she's basically a sitting duck.
    I would go out on a limb and say Wang for 3rd, followed by Park in 2nd, and Miyahara in 1st. But judging from the most recent results, I don't know if Wang can overcome that deficit... I hope so.
    Wang hasn't done what we expect from her. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu5F1b2whQ4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totentanz View Post
    Wang hasn't done what we expect from her. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu5F1b2whQ4
    Yes, I know. There's a good reason why I said I was goin to go out on a limb
    But I have some faith that she might pull up in the long. Who Knows?

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    So far (4:34 pm edt)

    1 So Youn PARK KOR 52.33 29.50 22.83 5.82 5.50 5.75 5.71 5.75 0.00 #12
    2 Courtney HICKS USA 51.36 27.85 23.51 6.07 5.64 5.93 5.93 5.82 0.00 #17
    3 Kako TOMOTAKI JPN 46.89 26.09 20.80 5.39 5.07 5.14 5.29 5.11 0.00 #9
    4 Angela WANG USA 44.71 23.34 21.37 5.50 5.21 5.18 5.46 5.36 0.00 #2
    5 Alaine CHARTRAND CAN 43.42 24.25 20.17 5.25 4.93 4.89 5.07 5.07 1.00 #3
    6 Josefine TALJEGARD SWE 42.42 21.70 20.72 5.07 5.07 5.14 5.29 5.32 0.00 #6
    7 Beata PAPP FIN 39.53 20.30 19.23 4.79 4.54 4.86 4.96 4.89 0.00 #10
    8 Nicole RAJICOVA SVK 38.38 18.87 19.51 5.07 4.68 4.86 4.89 4.89 0.00 #18
    9 Netta SCHREIBER ISR 36.35 18.76 17.59 4.43 4.21 4.39 4.54 4.43 0.00 #1
    10 Tina STUERZINGER SUI 34.52 19.57 16.95 4.50 4.07 4.29 4.21 4.11 2.00 #11
    11 Madelaine PARKER NZL 33.08 17.57 16.51 4.11 3.93 4.25 4.21 4.14 1.00 #13
    12 Tsz Ying Crystal CHIK HKG 31.32 15.29 16.03 4.21 3.82 4.07 4.04 3.89 0.00 #16
    13 Brittany LAU SIN 31.11 15.45 15.66 4.11 3.68 3.86 4.04 3.89 0.00 #14
    14 Pernille SORENSEN DEN 28.95 13.15 15.80 4.18 3.64 3.86 4.07 4.00 0.00 #8
    15 Corinna Lijun LIN TPE 27.67 13.82 13.85 3.68 3.43 3.46 3.43 3.32 0.00 #5
    16 Raya M. WILLOUGHBY MAS 26.36 12.62 14.74 3.82 3.54 3.68 3.71 3.68 1.00 #15
    17 Anhelina BOSKO ARG 22.08 9.97 12.11 3.11 2.93 2.89 3.14 3.07 0.00 #4
    18 Deirdre FAEGRE IRL 17.74 6.82 10.92 2.86 2.61 2.61 2.89 2.68 0.00 #7

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    Gerasimova is in the second position, just 0,03 point difference between her and Park.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjAfyNrciHE

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    ^
    looks like 3lz+2T , 3F a little iffy landing , same for the 2A
    btw, I hate the blowing kisses and frequent opening of the mouth

    that's without Satoko yet, If she is clean
    Satoko can get the mid 50+ scores
    Last edited by sky_fly20; 08-31-2012 at 03:59 PM.

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    I loved Angela's program choreography-wise. Everything was right to the music, the theme was clearly recognizable, there was a lot of style-appropriate transitions and she had good speed and nice, deep edges. I don't see how she scored lower on TR, IN and CH than Evgenia, whose program was a bit of hot mess as far as choreo and music cut are concerned. :(
    So Young (lovely twizzles and turns) and Kako were also quite enjoyable to watch. Courtney has nice spins and great speed, but I'm not fond of the spastic, flail-y choreo. ^^'
    I'm still waiting for Kiri's and Satoko's SP to be uploaded...

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