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    Alex Rus, Thanks you for keeping us up to date on this stuff. It's good to hear Gerboldt & Enbert are back!

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    It's crazy how a skater who landed 3salchow/3toe in the SP and four triples in the FS didn't even try to qualify for Junior Nationals (Agafonova).

    Gerboldt/Enbert skated the SP only:
    3Tw1 -1
    3S -2
    LoTh (no value so must have been a pop)

    Not a great skate. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Thank you again! It's nice to understand how other countries handle qualifications for Nationals. I like this "series" method of doing it, so that talented skaters don't lose their chance over maybe being too nervious or too sick for just one event, something that happens in the US. (Like Gracie Gold 2 years ago).
    Exactly. I wish other federations would follow this example. Although I guess finances are an issue. It's very expensive to hold so many events both for organisers and the skaters.

    In Poland the qualification system for pre-Novice and Novice nationals (where there's a lot of skaters) works exactly like this. There isn't just one qualifying competition but the scores from across the season count.
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    Next week is the Final Russian Cup which will decide who will qualify for Worlds.

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    StPetersburg Qualifiers to "Zhuk Memorial" 13-15 Feb
    http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1213...1213/index.htm (Russian)

    Moscow Qualifiers to "Zhuk Memorial" 19-22 Feb
    http://ffkm.ru/index.php/12-competit...-mlvozrast2013 (Russian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    StPetersburg Qualifiers to "Zhuk Memorial" 13-15 Feb
    http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1213...1213/index.htm (Russian)
    At Younger age won Anastasia Gubanova (girls) and Petr Gumennik (boys).
    Predictable - they are very talented children.

    Anastasia Gubanova (born 02 Dec 2002, so she will be age eligible to Olympics 2022 and Worlds 2019) landed 3F in competition before her 9th birthday. Now she lands 4 triples (all except 3Lz -she may jump 3Lz, but not stable enough) and 3T+3T combo. She is very small - looks like a baby, not child.

    Petr Gumennik (born 11 Apr 2002) has 3Lo+3Lo combo and all five triples.

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    I always love to see a well executed 3Lo3Lo combo They just aren't that common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I always love to see a well executed 3Lo3Lo combo They just aren't that common.
    Btw, Petr Gumennik is the only member of Team Russia born in 2002. All others are 2000 and elder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    StPetersburg Qualifiers to "Zhuk Memorial" 13-15 Feb
    http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1213...1213/index.htm (Russian)
    Elder Age (girls)
    1. Alina Karavaeva.
    2. Alexandrina Degtyareva.
    3. Ekaterina Vysotina.
    Only Karavaeva is known at national level (not of best).

    Elder Age (boys)
    1. Alexey Kranozhon (landed 3A< and 3Lz+3Lo, born 11 Apr 2000).
    2. Makar Ignatov (born 21 Jun 2000).
    3. Pavel Juferov.
    Krasnozhon and Ignatov are known at national level as good for their age.

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    Moscow Qualifiers to "Zhuk Memorial" 19-22 Feb
    http://ffkm.ru/index.php/12-competit...-mlvozrast2013 (Russian)
    http://klimkinilya1980.narod2.ru/spe...13_ml_vozrast/ (Russian) - results and protocols

    At younger age (born at 2002 and earlier):
    Girls - first place Valeria Evseeva. High level - TES 29.77 at SP and 49.73 at FS in Novice program!!! (PCS and Total are not so interesting, different judges - different PCS)
    Now she lands three triples - 3Lz, 3F and 3Lo. 3T and 3S - in futire. She learns triples beginning of most complicated.
    Boys - Georgiy Kunitsa with not so high result as Evseeva.

    At elder age (born at 2000-2001):
    Girls:
    FPl. Name Elements SP FS
    1 Alexandra Proklova 1 2 1 FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tubgtdBhzH4
    2 Elisabeth Tursynbaeva 2 1 2 (at JGP Events she will represent Kazakstan - two extra spots for Moscow girls) FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADzcgQJHryE
    3 Elizaveta Yuschenko 3 3 4 FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgpu5RttblI
    4 Polina Drynkina 5 5 3 FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-czUZ9v-04
    5 Sofia Istomina 6 4 5 FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Y5sHKSC0I
    6 Viktoria Bezrukova 4 6 6 FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6_k3Aliws

    1st Place - FS TES 65.08, 5th Place - 50.65. Program - Junior.
    First three have two complicated combos (3+3, 2A+3) in FS.

    Maria Sotskova (medalist of Junior Natonals) did not take place because of illness.

    Results of elder boys:
    FPl. Name Elements SP FS
    1 Stanislav Andryunin 1 2 1
    2 Daniil Bernadiner 2 1 2
    3 Egor Murashev 3 6 3

    We see that, as usual, boys in this age are less interesting than girls and technical level of boys is lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Elisabeth Tursynbaeva 2 1 2 (at JGP Events she will represent Kazakstan - two extra spots for Moscow girls) FS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADzcgQJHryE
    Why is Russian Federation happy to release someone who even at such a young age is getting such a good results? If this competition is equivalent to novice championships and Tursynbaeva came second, aren't they worried that this girl may potentially steal future medals from Russian girls? Wouldn't they prefer to keep her, just in case? Don't get me wrong, I am glad that some of those talented young girls get to compete and competing for a different country may be the only way if the number of spots is limited to 3 per country. It is a waste that some of those girls will never be able to go to Europeans even if they are better than the rest of Europe, only because they may be unlucky to be number 4 in Russia. But I am curious why would Russian Federation be happy about putting their resources in her and then letting her go. Will she still be able to train in Russia, with the same coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    Why is Russian Federation happy to release someone who even at such a young age is getting such a good results? If this competition is equivalent to novice championships and Tursynbaeva came second, aren't they worried that this girl may potentially steal future medals from Russian girls?
    She was 13th at Junior Nationals.
    Russia has Sakhanovich, Sotskova, Medvedeva of same age, Radionova 1 year elder. It is not so simple (for now - almost impossible) for Tursynbaeva to win any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    Why is Russian Federation happy to release someone who even at such a young age is getting such a good results? If this competition is equivalent to novice championships and Tursynbaeva came second, ...
    That is not quite so. This competition is not equivalent to novice championships. It is only a qualification event for novice championship. I doubt Tursynbaeva will place that high at real novice event. But she is really good and her progress from last year is remarkable.

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    Moscow Qualifiers to Nationals (Elder age).
    04-07 Mar 2013.
    Men and Ladies born at 1996 and younger. Program Junior.
    There are also Pairs and Ice Dance, but for them it is not a qualifying competition to national level (Pairs and Ice Dance qualify by Russian Cup Events).
    Best 6 Men and best 6 Ladies qualify to Nationals (Elder age) where best skaters (4 to 6 Men and 4 to 6 Ladies) qualify to Team Russia next season.

    http://ffkm.ru/index.php/12-competit...vstvozrast2013 (Russian)

    Past season medalists of Moscow qualifiers were at Ladies Medvedeva, Pogorilaya, Kajumova.
    They also were medalists of Nationals (Elder age).

    Past season medalists of Moscow qualifiers were at Men Samarin (takes place at JrWorlds-2013), Pitkeev, Kvitelashvili.
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    Moscow Qualifiers to Nationals (Elder age).

    Live video http://sportvisor.ru/broadcast/view/127/
    Start Lists http://ffkm.ru/images/files/012-13/2...Start_list.xls
    Online Results http://klimkin.biz/klim/st%20moskva%...arta/index.htm (not really online, as often at not so high level competitions)
    All Russian language.

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    Moscow Qualifiers to Nationals (Elder age).

    Videos Junior Ladies SP http://www.youtube.com/user/mihsersh/videos?view=0
    (here will be also other videos)
    Also videos http://sportvisor.ru/video/#127/0/2542

    It is just Moscow Qualifiers to "third sort Russian Nationals" (first - Senior, second - Junior Nationals), best skaters don't take place - they had all they wanted at 1st and 2nd sort nationals, best of the best few days ago competed at Jr Worlds or are preparing to Sr Worlds.
    Competitors are at most very young girls, many of them were at qalifiers to Novice Nationals (Zhuk).

    But level is not so low - in SP first two landed 3+3 combo, only 7 of 30 performed 2F, other 23 at least tried 3F, all 30 tried combo with first triple (and 19 of them had non-negative GOE for combo).

    So I recommend the videos.
    Last edited by AlexRus; 03-06-2013 at 06:51 AM.

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