Finlandia Trophy 2012 Oct 5 - Oct 7

Mao88 · Oct 6, 2012

The step out on the 3T cost Lipnitskaya the lead. On balance, Kiira deserves to be leading for having skated clean, but not by the margin she is at the moment. Her score, as with everybody elses, is inflated, but hers more so than others

janetfan · Oct 6, 2012

Mao88 said:
The step out on the 3T cost Lipnitskaya the lead. On balance, Kiira deserves to be leading for having skated clean, but not by the margin she is at the moment. Her score, as with everybody elses, is inflated, but hers more so than others

Inflation is relative - but I agree Kiira deserved first and by a comfortable margin.

I really enjoyed her SP - and who says a "green dress can't win"

Mao88 · Oct 6, 2012

SHORT DANCE - POSITION AFTER 7 OF 11 (End of Warm-Up Group 2)

1. Madison HUBBELL & Zachary DONOHUE (USA) - 58.44 (TES: 28.42, PCS: 30.02)
2. Charlene GUIGNARD & Marco FABBRI (ITA) - 55.64 (TES: 27.42, PCS: 28.22)
3. Ramona ELSENER & Florian ROST (SUI) - 44.95 (TES: 23.75, PCS: 21.20)
4. Justyna PLUTOWSKA & Peter GERBER (POL) - 41.62 (TES: 22.42, PCS: 20.20, DED: 1.00)
5. Henna LINDHOLM & Ossi KANERVO (FIN) - 39.98 (TES: 20.95, PCS: 19.03)
6. Bryna OI & Taiyo MIZUTANI (JPN) - 39.14 (TES: 21.59, PCS: 17.55)
7. Lesia VOLODENKOVA & Vitaly VAKUNOV (BLR) - 32.19 (TES: 14.17, PCS: 18.02)

Remaining Starting Order - Warm-Up Group 3

8. Anna CAPPELLINI & Luca LANOTTE (ITA)
9. Olesia KARMI & Max LINDHOLM (FIN)
10. Irina SHTORK & Taavi RAND (EST)
11. Ekaterina BOBROVA & Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS)

Mao88 · Oct 6, 2012

First Short Dance video has appeared:

Hubbell & Donohue - Short Dance

Mao88 · Oct 6, 2012

SHORT DANCE - VIDEOS & RESULT

1. Ekaterina BOBROVA & Dmitri SOLOVIEV (RUS) - 65.44 (TES: 31.66, PCS: 33.78)
2. Anna CAPPELLINI & Luca LANOTTE (ITA) - 64.16 (TES: 31.59, PCS: 32.57)
3. Madison HUBBELL & Zachary DONOHUE (USA) - 58.44 (TES: 28.42, PCS: 30.02)
4. Charlene GUIGNARD & Marco FABBRI (ITA) - 55.64 (TES: 27.42, PCS: 28.22)
5. Irina SHTORK & Taavi RAND (EST) - 50.55 (TES: 26.08, PCS: 24.47)
6. Ramona ELSENER & Florian ROST (SUI) - 44.95 (TES: 23.75, PCS: 21.20)
7. Justyna PLUTOWSKA & Peter GERBER (POL) - 41.62 (TES: 22.42, PCS: 20.20, DED: 1.00)
8. Henna LINDHOLM & Ossi KANERVO (FIN) - 39.98 (TES: 20.95, PCS: 19.03)
9. Bryna OI & Taiyo MIZUTANI (JPN) - 39.14 (TES: 21.59, PCS: 17.55)
10. Olesia KARMI / Max LINDHOLM (FIN) - 36.51 (TES: 17.99, PCS: 18.52)
11. Lesia VOLODENKOVA & Vitaly VAKUNOV (BLR) - 32.19 (TES: 14.17, PCS: 18.02)

Great performance by Bobrova & Soloviev!

sky_fly20 · Oct 6, 2012

Not surprised, Bobrova/Soloviev have lovely programs this season

very wise move to go to Zhulin and leave Kustarova/Alexeeva

sky_fly20 · Oct 6, 2012

Not surprised, Bobrova/Soloviev have lovely programs this season

very wise move to go to Zhulin and leave Kustarova/Alexeeva

Macassar88 · Oct 6, 2012

I know these are different competitions, but Bobrova and Soloviev not only got higher tech than Weaver and Poje, but also higher PCS! (0.02 lol)
Great way to begin their season. Keep it up in the FD!

Macassar88 · Oct 6, 2012

I know these are different competitions, but Bobrova and Soloviev not only got higher tech than Weaver and Poje, but also higher PCS! (0.02 lol)
Great way to begin their season. Keep it up in the FD!

icebeauty · Oct 6, 2012

Buttercup said:
I think you have to make some allowances for the fact that he hasn't competed since Vancouver; not everyone is like Plushenko, who can show up and do a program with no mistakes and all the content after two years away from skating. And really, I wouldn't make too much of one early season event. If this continues to be a pattern on the GP, then it becomes cause for concern.

Johnny going for the 4T was a good sign, IMO. He has to get comfortable with putting it in his programs if he wants to be taken seriously.

You have a really good point here. Johnny has said previously that the one thing he struggled with the most during his career is "learning to compete" - he's not a natural competitor (i.e. Plushenko and Lysacek) -- which has been one of his downfalls over the years -- and he has to rely on his ability and training. Based on what I read on IN, he said he was the most nervous he's ever been - he. Just goes to show, that nerves never go away with time. I was happy to see him go for the quad and he got through the program without making HUGE mistakes. You can tell he's done the training and he has the jumps, but he's just to put it all together now. There is quite a bit of room for improvement, but he's right on track.

icebeauty · Oct 6, 2012

Buttercup said:
I think you have to make some allowances for the fact that he hasn't competed since Vancouver; not everyone is like Plushenko, who can show up and do a program with no mistakes and all the content after two years away from skating. And really, I wouldn't make too much of one early season event. If this continues to be a pattern on the GP, then it becomes cause for concern.

Johnny going for the 4T was a good sign, IMO. He has to get comfortable with putting it in his programs if he wants to be taken seriously.

You have a really good point here. Johnny has said previously that the one thing he struggled with the most during his career is "learning to compete" - he's not a natural competitor (i.e. Plushenko and Lysacek) -- which has been one of his downfalls over the years -- and he has to rely on his ability and training. Based on what I read on IN, he said he was the most nervous he's ever been - he. Just goes to show, that nerves never go away with time. I was happy to see him go for the quad and he got through the program without making HUGE mistakes. You can tell he's done the training and he has the jumps, but he's just to put it all together now. There is quite a bit of room for improvement, but he's right on track.

sky_fly20 · Oct 6, 2012

Macassar88 said:
I know these are different competitions, but Bobrova and Soloviev not only got higher tech than Weaver and Poje, but also higher PCS! (0.02 lol)
Great way to begin their season. Keep it up in the FD!

Im thinking for the first time Bobrova/Soloviev might have a chance of beating Weaver/Poje and Pechalat/Bourzat
I think normally PCS goes higher as the season goes on , lol

sky_fly20 · Oct 6, 2012

Macassar88 said:
I know these are different competitions, but Bobrova and Soloviev not only got higher tech than Weaver and Poje, but also higher PCS! (0.02 lol)
Great way to begin their season. Keep it up in the FD!

Im thinking for the first time Bobrova/Soloviev might have a chance of beating Weaver/Poje and Pechalat/Bourzat
I think normally PCS goes higher as the season goes on , lol

AnnaTheMusician · Oct 6, 2012

Greetings from the arena. Bad words from many of you. I saw Kiira's program live and it's one of the best programs I've ever seen. Such a mature, graceful, clean and strong skating. Real art. You can't even compare Julia's and Kiira' skating, a girl and a lady I would say. I had tears in my eyes almost the whole program, it was just a piece of heaven.

AnnaTheMusician · Oct 6, 2012

Greetings from the arena. Bad words from many of you. I saw Kiira's program live and it's one of the best programs I've ever seen. Such a mature, graceful, clean and strong skating. Real art. You can't even compare Julia's and Kiira' skating, a girl and a lady I would say. I had tears in my eyes almost the whole program, it was just a piece of heaven.

Mao88 · Oct 6, 2012

Here are the protocols for the Short Dance

Also, Cappellini & Lannotte's Short Dance

Cappellini & Lannotte - Short Dance

Mao88 · Oct 6, 2012

Here are the protocols for the Short Dance

Also, Cappellini & Lannotte's Short Dance

Cappellini & Lannotte - Short Dance

janetfan · Oct 6, 2012

AnnaTheMusician said:
Greetings from the arena. Bad words from many of you. I saw Kiira's program live and it's one of the best programs I've ever seen. Such a mature, graceful, clean and strong skating. Real art. You can't even compare Julia's and Kiira' skating, a girl and a lady I would say. I had tears in my eyes almost the whole program, it was just a piece of heaven.

Thanks for the report. I agree and thought Kiira was divine.
I think it's the best program I have ever seen from her and she skated it extremely well.

For me it was easily the best SP.

janetfan · Oct 6, 2012

AnnaTheMusician said:
Greetings from the arena. Bad words from many of you. I saw Kiira's program live and it's one of the best programs I've ever seen. Such a mature, graceful, clean and strong skating. Real art. You can't even compare Julia's and Kiira' skating, a girl and a lady I would say. I had tears in my eyes almost the whole program, it was just a piece of heaven.

Thanks for the report. I agree and thought Kiira was divine.
I think it's the best program I have ever seen from her and she skated it extremely well.

For me it was easily the best SP.

sky_fly20 · Oct 6, 2012

Bobrova/Soloviev SD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCckQ_ALvY&feature=plcp

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