Chan hopes to add more quad jumps to his repertoire

[janetfan]

I agree: what Patrick did is very risky, but Michelle was a lot more mature than him in her skating, she was really "herself" on the ice, in the past years Chan's programs were always refined in the minimum details by his coach/choreographer, and you can see that he didn't share with the crowd his own emotions, he was just executing what others told him to do (and the result was CHANtastic!!), Michelle didn't have to change her spins every year according to the new rules, and she kept always the same jumps she was presenting year after year, never changing her elements, Patrick is trying to learn new jumps and new programs from different choreographers... Absolutely a big challenge with a dance coach!

I think you raise a good point about the Kwan and Chan.

Michelle won Silver at Nagano at 17 and Chan has admitted he collapsed under the pressure of it all in Vancouver and wasn't close to the podium.

Michelle is a 5 time WC and two time Olympic medalist.

Chan has a long, long way to go before he ( actually it's his fans I refer to) can think of matching Michelle's competitive record.

Three years ago I predicted Michelle's five WC's would beat both Yuna and Mao's combined WC's.

So far I am still in the game.

Different eras produce different results.

[gmyers]

Chan was close to the podium! He could have medaled. He was so sloppy that if he cleaned up he also could have won. Even with being extremely sloppy only 6 points back from bronze in 5th place. Weir was 6 with only a mistake on a spin and not falling and sloppy and time violations. He had the winning kind of program and his 5th place finish could have easily been first.

[janetfan]

Chan was close to the podium! He could have medaled. He was so sloppy that if he cleaned up he also could have won. Even with being extremely sloppy only 6 points back from bronze in 5th place. Weir was 6 with only a mistake on a spin and not falling and sloppy and time violations. He had the winning kind of program and his 5th place finish could have easily been first.

Chan was not so close to the podium......

A more fair remark might be that he was overscored and should have been placed 6-7-8 in Vancouver.

Getting back to the topic it seems fair to suggest most top skaters hope to add new or better jumps to their programs this season.

[Binthere]

Interesting to see in the year before the Olympics how the bar seems to be on the rise in terms of variety of quads. That said, I would expect 2 cnosistent quad toes (one in combination) will still win the day. The risk and reward trade-off for trying the other entrances does not seem worth it from a points and psychological energy standpoint.

That said, if there is any skater who seems best positioned to say the risk/reward equation has a cushion, it would be Chan. Hope he really goes for it this season because would wonder if such risks - including while training - would make sense to anyone during the Olympic year.

[gmyers]

Chan was not so close to the podium......

A more fair remark might be that he was overscored and should have been placed 6-7-8 in Vancouver.

Getting back to the topic it seems fair to suggest most top skaters hope to add new or better jumps to their programs this season.

He was 4th in the free skate. If you want to say he was not legimately close to the podium you can say that but he was close. His FS was a mess too just like the SP but all the necessary elements for high scoring was there and he almost made it work for a podium spot.

Interesting to see in the year before the Olympics how the bar seems to be on the rise in terms of variety of quads. That said, I would expect 2 cnosistent quad toes (one in combination) will still win the day. The risk and reward trade-off for trying the other entrances does not seem worth it from a points and psychological energy standpoint.

That said, if there is any skater who seems best positioned to say the risk/reward equation has a cushion, it would be Chan. Hope he really goes for it this season because would wonder if such risks - including while training - would make sense to anyone during the Olympic year.

quads and triple axel-triple toe combos are both on the rise. Chan does have more room to take risk but Takahashi can't be too good like he was in the World Team Troph or Chan have as many problems like no 3A.