Ice Dance & Carmen

[CAS]

I´m quite impressed by their FD to Carmen. Completely unexpected. A lot of skaters are starting to work with modern dance choreographers and I think Swan brought A LOT of moves we see modern dance routines on shows like SYTYCD to their Carmen FD. The team did a fantastic job of bringing those moves to the elements and choreography. This is a program that I'm just thankful they did, I don't care how it scores and who criticizes it or what they say. I'm happy they had the ambition to go there and that they whole team put this together. It's not just another Carmen program as many feared, it is Carmen with all the lust and violence and madness that Carmen is and I'm going to just sit back and enjoy the show this season.

[all that]

So are we just not gonna talk about the immense amount of crotch/face interaction going on in V/M's FD?

I'll discuss. What do you want to say about it? I think it's awesome.

I´m quite impressed by their FD to Carmen. Completely unexpected. A lot of skaters are starting to work with modern dance choreographers and I think Swan brought A LOT of moves we see modern dance routines on shows like SYTYCD to their Carmen FD. The team did a fantastic job of bringing those moves to the elements and choreography. This is a program that I'm just thankful they did, I don't care how it scores and who criticizes it or what they say. I'm happy they had the ambition to go there and that they whole team put this together. It's not just another Carmen program as many feared, it is Carmen with all the lust and violence and madness that Carmen is and I'm going to just sit back and enjoy the show this season.

I agree. The best thing is the program shows off their dance training. I'm hoping after this, other teams really try to show dance on ice.

[colleen o'neill]

Carmen is lust ..pure and simple. ( and the dark places lust can lead to when it takes over )... There are many brief body positions that portray this admirably in what we've seen. What I love is that it's all in the choreo / body movement..no grotesque mugging or mid-ice writhing.

I fully expect this Carmen to be fabulous , maybe even become the one all others are compared to.

[claphappy]

I'll discuss. What do you want to say about it? I think it's awesome.

It looks very silly to me. It'll probably look less silly when they actually preform it, but still.

[all that]

It looks very silly to me. It'll probably look less silly when they actually preform it, but still.

Hmm. It looks very artistic to me, so I guess we're seeing it differently. It's all good.

[Olympia]

Carmen is lust ..pure and simple. ( and the dark places lust can lead to when it takes over )... There are many brief body positions that portray this admirably in what we've seen. What I love is that it's all in the choreo / body movement..no grotesque mugging or mid-ice writhing.

I fully expect this Carmen to be fabulous , maybe even become the one all others are compared to.

I finally got to watch the practice video (earlier on this thread), and I'm thrilled with it. If it looks this good in practice, it's going to be boffo in competition.

Between these two and Meryl and Charlie, it's going to be greed heaven for fans of either or both (like extra-greedy me). It's wonderful living in a golden age of ice dancing.

[Scrufflet]

Olympia, I shall join you in greed heaven as I am a fan of both. I love this golden age and am quite happy to see the top spot go back and forth. And it's so nice to see someone resurrecting the term "boffo". Wee!

[lulu]

Bestemianova is one of the great acting masters of ice dance. I still get gooseflesh when I remember the Rasputin program they did as pro skaters. He played Rasputin, and she played the young Tsarevitch, Alexei. There was one moment when she looked up at him in fright and tried to smile ingratiatingly...I thought, this lady could teach film stars how to convey realistic emotion.

THIS. There are skaters who are great performers, Natalia though was an excellent actress. I know she is sometimes thought to be over the top, but I thought she was brilliant in Rasputin, and Andrei too, he did a great job of pulling off the Mad Monk thing.

Saw V&M's Carmen, and I like it a lot, I can't wait to see it when it becomes a bit more polished, because it is already a gorgeous program.

[golden411]

Syrupy-sweet image is gone
By Ryan Pyette, The London Free Press
Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:31:34 EDT PM
http://www.lfpress.com/2012/10/28/sy...-image-is-gone

Excerpts:

Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir’s combustible Carmen free dance, unveiled Saturday in a winning way at Skate Canada International in Windsor, leaves little hint of their former maple-syrupy Canadian-sweetheart image. ....

Marina Zoueva, Virtue and Moir’s coach, saw this program as a way to coax a leading lady out of the shadows. In the past, commentary from judges suggested Moir, the 25-year-old from Ilderton, was so much more the visible partner.
“He brings so much energy and Tessa is gentle and beautiful,” Zoueva said. “The best thing about them is the connection they have. That’s what’s special and this is the opportunity in their careers to show love in a dramatic way. ....

They wanted to be ground-breakers. Carmen, in its first form, registers on the Richter scale. ....

ETA:

Oddly the article includes a caption that says, "Local sweethearts Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir perform a sexually charged free dance ...," but the photo is not of Carmen. I think it must be their Hallelujah exhibition.