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    Short Dance JGP Austria 2012

    The ice dance preview has videos to watch while you're waiting for the event to start:
    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...125#post658125


    Warm-Up Group 1
    1 Olga JAKUSHINA / Aleksandrs GRISHINS LAT

    2 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR

    3 Shari KOCH / Christian NUECHTERN GER

    4 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR

    Warm-Up Group 2
    5 Ayesha CAMPBELL / Shane SPEDEN NZL

    6 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV RUS

    7 Alessia BUSI / Andrea FABBRI ITA

    8 Rebecca KEMPT / Luke RUSSEL GBR

    Warm-Up Group 3
    9 Whitney MILLER / Kyle MACMILLAN USA

    10 Karolina PROCHAZKOVA / Michal CESKA CZE

    11 Aleksandra KATKOVA / Radoslaw BARSZCZAK POL

    12 Christine SMITH / Simon EISENBAUER AUT

    Warm-Up Group 4
    13 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA

    14 Maria SIMONOVA / Dmitriy DRAGUN RUS

    15 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA

    16 Mackenzie BENT / Garrett MACKEEN CAN

    17 Magalie LEININGER / Maxime CAUREL FRA

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    2 teams yet to go

    1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 59.19 1
    2 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV RUS 54.30 2
    3 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 51.07 3
    4 Shari KOCH / Christian NUECHTERN GER 47.84 4
    5 Karolina PROCHAZKOVA / Michal CESKA CZE 46.31 5
    6 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 44.54 6
    7 Maria SIMONOVA / Dmitriy DRAGUN RUS 43.04 7
    8 Whitney MILLER / Kyle MACMILLAN USA 41.78 8
    9 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 41.12 9
    10 Alessia BUSI / Andrea FABBRI ITA 39.58 10
    11 Olga JAKUSHINA / Aleksandrs GRISHINS LAT 31.29 11
    12 Rebecca KEMPT / Luke RUSSEL GBR 30.25 12
    13 Ayesha CAMPBELL / Shane SPEDEN NZL 28.57 13
    14 Aleksandra KATKOVA / Radoslaw BARSZCZAK POL 26.55 14

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    Prochazkova & Ceska CZE number 10 to skate is the last shown
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c29Z5...1&feature=plcp

    Bent & McKeen into second place, just a whisper ahead of Yanovskaia/ Mozgov
    2 Mackenzie BENT / Garrett MACKEEN CAN 54.31 2
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    I am surprised by the low scores the judges gave Yanovskaia-Mozgov: their first Blues sequence really deserved level 1? Their edges were not so deep, but the key point were essentially well-executed... Papadakis-Cizeron have really found their way this season, they will surely be medal-contenders at the JGPF...

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    As in the two previous JGP's, the SD has had some counterintuitive results, almost entirely driven by the Blues pattern dance.

    Bent / McKeen hit the key points. Yanovskaia / Mozgov apparently did not. For that matter, Papadakis / Cizeron continued to have timing issues in one or the two sequences. I expect to see Yanovskaia / Mozgov move up in the FD, though, based on their PCS scores.

    Here's how the top eight teams hit the key points, from the protocols

    Technical Controller van der Broeck FRANCE
    Technical Specialist Elek HUNGARY
    Assistant Technical Specialist Ellinger AUSTRIA

    Papadakis & Cizeron 2Bl3 kp YNY
    1Bl2 KP YTT

    Bent & McKeen 1Bl4 kp YYY
    2Bl4 kp YYY

    Yanovskaia & Mozgov 1BL1 kp TNN
    2BL2 kp NYN

    Parsons & Parsons 2BL4 kp YYY
    1BL3 kp TYY

    Koch & Nuechtern 1BL3 kp YNY
    2BL4 kp YYY

    Prochazkova & Ceska 1Bl1 kp NNN
    2BL2 kp YNN

    Nazarova & Nikitin 1BL2 kp YTT
    2BL1 kp NNN

    Simonova & Dragun 1BL2 kp YNT
    2BL1 kp TTN

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    1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 59.19 31.79 27.40 6.89 6.61 6.96 6.96 6.82 0.00 #15
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suCuGrvgins&feature=plcp
    2 Mackenzie BENT / Garrett MACKEEN CAN 54.31 30.00 24.31 6.14 5.82 6.18 6.11 6.11 0.00 #16
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzYGXnML1zc&feature=plcp
    3 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV RUS 54.30 27.22 27.08 6.96 6.61 6.86 6.75 6.68 0.00 #6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQKmdiIdvhU&feature=plcp
    4 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 51.07 27.79 23.28 5.89 5.54 5.89 5.89 5.86 0.00 #13
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6-_ZZvzOg&feature=plcp
    5 Shari KOCH / Christian NUECHTERN GER 47.84 24.81 23.03 5.86 5.54 5.79 5.82 5.75 0.00 #3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxG5lyOfDxs&feature=plcp
    6 Karolina PROCHAZKOVA / Michal CESKA CZE 46.31 25.07 22.24 5.64 5.36 5.68 5.57 5.54 1.00 #10
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c29Z5LVQj_8&feature=plcp
    7 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 44.54 21.71 22.83 5.86 5.64 5.89 5.71 5.50 0.00 #4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni4sMrc2jU8&feature=plcp
    8 Maria SIMONOVA / Dmitriy DRAGUN RUS 43.04 21.50 21.54 5.46 5.18 5.36 5.50 5.39 0.00 #14
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrptU3sCCaA&feature=plcp
    9 Whitney MILLER / Kyle MACMILLAN USA 41.78 22.99 18.79 4.82 4.54 4.68 4.79 4.64 0.00 #9
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGxM3WfhaoI&feature=plcp
    10 Magalie LEININGER / Maxime CAUREL FRA 41.43 23.07 18.36 4.71 4.39 4.54 4.71 4.57 0.00 #17
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5v2CjbUBbk&feature=plcp
    11 Viktoria KAVALIOVA / Yurii BIELIAIEV BLR 41.12 21.00 20.12 5.14 4.86 5.14 4.96 5.04 0.00 #2
    12 Alessia BUSI / Andrea FABBRI ITA 39.58 20.50 19.08 4.82 4.57 4.82 4.82 4.79 0.00 #7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byF4PbQV1t8&feature=plcp
    13 Olga JAKUSHINA / Aleksandrs GRISHINS LAT 31.29 15.30 15.99 4.11 3.75 4.04 4.14 3.93 0.00 #1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ZbSRhl9zQ&feature=plcp
    14 Rebecca KEMPT / Luke RUSSEL GBR 30.25 17.35 13.90 3.54 3.25 3.50 3.64 3.43 1.00 #8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBPNI80XZ8&feature=plcp
    15 Ayesha CAMPBELL / Shane SPEDEN NZL 28.57 15.22 13.35 3.43 3.18 3.39 3.50 3.21 0.00 #5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4aumqowOts&feature=plcp
    16 Aleksandra KATKOVA / Radoslaw BARSZCZAK POL 26.55 11.63 14.92 3.82 3.71 3.71 3.86 3.57 0.00 #11
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6tJ0gCVf00&feature=plcp

    and protocols

    http://www.isuresults.com/results/jg..._SD_Scores.pdf

    Bent & McKeen got only level 1 on the twizzles

    Parsons & Parsons got only level 1 on the midline step

    Koch & Nuectern got only level 1 on the twizzles

    Nazarova & Nikitin got only level 1 on the midline step

    Simonova & Dragun got only level 1 on the midline step, as well as having difficulties with the Blues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    As in the two previous JGP's, the SD has had some counterintuitive results, almost entirely driven by the Blues pattern dance.

    Bent / McKeen hit the key points. Yanovskaia / Mozgov apparently did not. For that matter, Papadakis / Cizeron continued to have timing issues in one or the two sequences. I expect to see Yanovskaia / Mozgov move up in the FD, though, based on their PCS scores.

    Here's how the top eight teams hit the key points, from the protocols

    Technical Controller van der Broeck FRANCE
    Technical Specialist Elek HUNGARY
    Assistant Technical Specialist Ellinger AUSTRIA

    Papadakis & Cizeron 2Bl3 kp YNY
    1Bl2 KP YTT

    Bent & McKeen 1Bl4 kp YYY
    2Bl4 kp YYY

    Yanovskaia & Mozgov 1BL1 kp TNN
    2BL2 kp NYN

    Parsons & Parsons 2BL4 kp YYY
    1BL3 kp TYY

    Koch & Nuechtern 1BL3 kp YNY
    2BL4 kp YYY

    Prochazkova & Ceska 1Bl1 kp NNN
    2BL2 kp YNN

    Nazarova & Nikitin 1BL2 kp YTT
    2BL1 kp NNN

    Simonova & Dragun 1BL2 kp YNT
    2BL1 kp TTN
    I know this doesn't mean anything, but the Technical Controller is French And, comparing their scores with the others', I can't understand those levels: I didn't see that big difference between the Canadians-Americans and the French-Russians in the key points... The edges were quite good for all the four pairs, but the execution of the movements and the knee action was better in the Europeans', I really don't understand what do they consider to give the levels...

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    What do they consider for the levels? So glad you asked. Here's a rundown I put together

    http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sho...hlight=pattern

    The above link shows examples and goes into details. Here's the short version:

    It is the task of the technical committee to determine whether a team has achieved a minimum standard to get credit for the key points.

    It is the task of the Judges to determine how well the whole element was done (this is where the quality of the skill is evaluated.)

    I haven't watched these yet, so based on protocols alone:

    Bent / McKeen got credit for all 6 key points, but their GOE from the judges was 0.36 and 0.29 for each of the two blues segments respectively.

    The tech panel gave Yanovskaia / Mozgov credit for only one key point of 6, missing 4 for improper execution and 1 for timing. However, their GOE from the judges were 0.50 and 0.36 respectively; the judges, like you, (and I'm betting I'll agree after I see the SD), preferred them to Bent /McKeen.

    The PCS tells the same story: Yanovskaia/Mozgov 27.08, Bent McKeen 24.31, with Yanovskaia/Mozgov about half a point better in skating skills.

    The problem is the base values of the pattern dances, which in turn is determined by the number of key points hit:

    6 key points gives you a base of 14.00
    1 key point gives you a base of 8.00

    Yanovskaia / Mozgov were 6 points in the hole before anything else was added in.

    The same thing happened to Aldrridge / Eaton last week. They eventually won the event, but were down 6 points in the SD to Kosigina / Moroshkin.
    Last edited by dorispulaski; 09-13-2012 at 09:34 AM.

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    doris..thanks for the links.. I don't know if its the sound at the event or something wrong with my speakers , but I'm going to blame the event ,or the ISU ..I don't know how we can get an idea of the timing with the dreadful sound.

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