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    It's not a big difference in PCS. And Titushkina's jumps are very small. & There's probably a significant speed difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    19.14 for Satoko's PCS?? And the one-point deduction?! She didn't fall, she didn't finish late
    Maybe, 1 second time violation. I'm not sure.

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    After Warm Up Group 4

    1 So Youn PARK KOR 51.45 30.02 21.43 5.61 5.00 5.50 5.25 5.43 0.00 #18
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR00yZ7Ra2I&feature=plcp

    2 Uliana TITUSHKINA RUS 51.40 29.88 21.52 5.36 5.07 5.46 5.46 5.54 0.00 #14
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7LnuhCVBrQ&feature=plcp

    3 Leah KEISER USA 50.70 28.81 21.89 5.64 5.11 5.54 5.50 5.57 0.00 #6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TepnVSGpmLE&feature=plcp

    4 Miyabi OBA JPN 49.16 29.10 20.06 5.32 4.75 5.04 4.96 5.00 0.00 #4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l4y-MPxi04&feature=plcp

    5 Gerli LIINAMAE EST 46.86 29.24 17.62 4.61 4.14 4.46 4.43 4.39 0.00 #1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ9ewVaHtao&feature=plcp

    6 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 46.62 28.48 19.14 4.96 4.64 4.86 4.71 4.75 1.00 #3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NC62bJFn-g&feature=plcp

    7 Lenaelle GILLERON-GORRY FRA 44.85 25.16 19.69 5.07 4.54 5.00 4.89 5.11 0.00 #21
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7oaU-XOFjI&feature=plcp

    8 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 40.92 23.35 17.57 4.32 4.18 4.46 4.43 4.57 0.00 #19
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHT5Fnv3WDM&feature=plcp

    9 Kristina ZASEEVA RUS 40.54 21.08 20.46 5.29 4.82 5.07 5.18 5.21 1.00 #24
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y2cLFbghd8&feature=plcp

    10 Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA SUI 39.68 22.00 17.68 4.61 4.18 4.43 4.39 4.50 0.00 #5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KgEr11Z1g&feature=plcp

    11 Anna AFONKINA BUL 38.44 22.43 17.01 4.32 3.96 4.32 4.36 4.29 1.00 #7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZrP0B25uJc&feature=plcp

    12 Hwi CHOI KOR 37.77 20.51 18.26 4.82 4.46 4.32 4.68 4.54 1.00 #10
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwf6nAnWBI&feature=plcp

    13 Brooklee HAN AUS 37.24 21.39 17.85 4.64 4.25 4.50 4.39 4.54 2.00 #8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhIcChLlZ10&feature=plcp

    14 Rebecka EMANUELSSON SWE 36.87 20.78 17.09 4.32 4.04 4.32 4.29 4.39 1.00 #11
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytnKKmXeDiI&feature=plcp

    15 Elizaveta UKOLOVA CZE 36.11 20.83 16.28 4.29 3.93 3.93 4.18 4.04 1.00 #20
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5VbwU0lCnc&feature=plcp

    16 Sila SAYGI TUR 35.30 18.49 16.81 4.11 3.96 4.36 4.25 4.32 0.00 #2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHxChy9mFXA&feature=plcp

    17 Alina FJODOROVA LAT 33.10 18.90 16.20 4.18 3.82 4.04 4.14 4.07 2.00 #13
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbppDbD8tPk&feature=plcp

    18 Isabella LARKIN GBR 33.09 17.00 16.09 4.07 3.79 4.14 4.04 4.07 0.00 #12
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U4IWrdqGH4&feature=plcp

    19 Pina UMEK SLO 32.71 18.92 14.79 3.89 3.43 3.64 3.82 3.71 1.00 #17
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ4R-q1Kh9U&feature=plcp

    20 Aislin ROSADO MEX 32.28 16.48 15.80 4.00 3.68 3.96 4.04 4.07 0.00 #22
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vibr4Dqx4wk&feature=plcp

    21 Netta SCHREIBER ISR 31.13 15.48 16.65 4.18 3.93 4.18 4.21 4.32 1.00 #23
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo8qtxG_SV8&feature=plcp

    22 Melisa Sema ATIK TUR 29.13 14.45 15.68 4.00 3.68 3.96 3.93 4.04 1.00 #9
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQvRCeP283M&feature=plcp[/QUOTE]

    23 Oliya CLARKSON GRN 27.75 14.15 15.60 3.96 3.64 3.86 3.96 4.07 2.00 #15
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkzvgSUw7F8&feature=plcp

    24 Ecem ERTENLI TUR 26.76 15.17 12.59 3.25 2.93 3.21 3.18 3.18 1.00 #16
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShOC66qK_oo&feature=plcp

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    It's not a big difference in PCS. And Titushkina's jumps are very small. & There's probably a significant speed difference.
    In general, 5.46 and 5.54 for CH e IN look too low for me, her program was emotionally touching, when Keiser's was energetic and "happy", but not really attractive aesthetically and basing on how she used her body to express the meaning of the music... It doesn't matter, the difference is small and it doesn't affect the result!
    And I know that many of you will disagree but I think that Park's first place is correct: she was the only one with good quality in all of her elements, good musicality and a "whole package", if you know what I mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    In general, 5.46 and 5.54 for CH e IN look too low for me, her program was emotionally touching, when Keiser's was energetic and "happy", but not really attractive aesthetically and basing on how she used her body to express the meaning of the music... It doesn't matter, the difference is small and it doesn't affect the result!
    And I know that many of you will disagree but I think that Park's first place is correct: she was the only one with good quality in all of her elements, good musicality and a "whole package", if you know what I mean...
    And yet she lost on PCS to both Uliana and Leah while winning on TES(even though her combo was 3S-2T while the other two landed 3Lz-3T). I know jumps aren't everything and I agree that Park deserved first place overall but I can't understand the scores

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirunna View Post
    And yet she lost on PCS to both Uliana and Leah while winning on TES(even though her combo was 3S-2T while the other two landed 3Lz-3T). I know jumps aren't everything and I agree that Park deserved first place overall but I can't understand the scores
    The GOEs were the key, I think: all of Park's jumps surely received +1 or (probably) +2, her spins must have been all level 4, when Titushkina and keiser's FCSps were not so beautiful, with positive GOEs, and I wouldn't be surprised if the step sequence received level 4... Yes, I agree with you that the PCS could be higher, but the judges today are so strict...

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    I'm very happy with So Youn Park's placing. The only thing I didn't like was what I think was her final spin which had some ugly foot-dangly positions in it. Otherwise, it was really a nice program.

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    Final Results after Warmup Group 5



    1 So Youn PARK KOR 51.45 30.02 21.43 5.61 5.00 5.50 5.25 5.43 0.00 #18
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR00yZ7Ra2I&feature=plcp

    2 Uliana TITUSHKINA RUS 51.40 29.88 21.52 5.36 5.07 5.46 5.46 5.54 0.00 #14
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7LnuhCVBrQ&feature=plcp

    3 Leah KEISER USA 50.70 28.81 21.89 5.64 5.11 5.54 5.50 5.57 0.00 #6
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TepnVSGpmLE&feature=plcp

    4 Miyabi OBA JPN 49.16 29.10 20.06 5.32 4.75 5.04 4.96 5.00 0.00 #4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l4y-MPxi04&feature=plcp

    5 Gerli LIINAMAE EST 46.86 29.24 17.62 4.61 4.14 4.46 4.43 4.39 0.00 #1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ9ewVaHtao&feature=plcp

    6 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 46.62 28.48 19.14 4.96 4.64 4.86 4.71 4.75 1.00 #3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NC62bJFn-g&feature=plcp

    7 Lenaelle GILLERON-GORRY FRA 44.85 25.16 19.69 5.07 4.54 5.00 4.89 5.11 0.00 #21
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7oaU-XOFjI&feature=plcp

    8 Nina JIANG USA 41.71 21.94 20.77 5.43 5.00 5.07 5.39 5.07 1.00 #28
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkGLrbSFdak&feature=plcp

    9 Anne Line GJERSEM NOR 40.92 23.35 17.57 4.32 4.18 4.46 4.43 4.57 0.00 #19
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHT5Fnv3WDM&feature=plcp

    10 Kristina ZASEEVA RUS 40.54 21.08 20.46 5.29 4.82 5.07 5.18 5.21 1.00 #24
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y2cLFbghd8&feature=plcp

    11 Yasmine Kimiko YAMADA SUI 39.68 22.00 17.68 4.61 4.18 4.43 4.39 4.50 0.00 #5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7KgEr11Z1g&feature=plcp

    12 Beata PAPP FIN 38.53 20.85 17.68 4.43 4.18 4.43 4.50 4.57 0.00 #26
    http://www.youtube.com/user/ISUJGP2011/videos?view=0

    13 Anna AFONKINA BUL 38.44 22.43 17.01 4.32 3.96 4.32 4.36 4.29 1.00 #7
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZrP0B25uJc&feature=plcp

    14 Hwi CHOI KOR 37.77 20.51 18.26 4.82 4.46 4.32 4.68 4.54 1.00 #10
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUwf6nAnWBI&feature=plcp

    15 Brooklee HAN AUS 37.24 21.39 17.85 4.64 4.25 4.50 4.39 4.54 2.00 #8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhIcChLlZ10&feature=plcp

    16 Rebecka EMANUELSSON SWE 36.87 20.78 17.09 4.32 4.04 4.32 4.29 4.39 1.00 #11
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytnKKmXeDiI&feature=plcp

    17 Elizaveta UKOLOVA CZE 36.11 20.83 16.28 4.29 3.93 3.93 4.18 4.04 1.00 #20
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5VbwU0lCnc&feature=plcp

    18 Darin KHUSSEIN UKR 35.49 19.63 15.86 4.11 3.71 3.93 4.04 4.04 0.00 #29
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Kjtn7cfCM&feature=plcp

    19 Sila SAYGI TUR 35.30 18.49 16.81 4.11 3.96 4.36 4.25 4.32 0.00 #2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHxChy9mFXA&feature=plcp

    20 Alina FJODOROVA LAT 33.10 18.90 16.20 4.18 3.82 4.04 4.14 4.07 2.00 #13
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbppDbD8tPk&feature=plcp

    21 Kristina ZAKHARANKA BLR 34.58 19.63 16.95 4.36 4.07 4.11 4.39 4.25 2.00 #30
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQeNUqA3Cc&feature=plcp

    22 Isabella LARKIN GBR 33.09 17.00 16.09 4.07 3.79 4.14 4.04 4.07 0.00 #12
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U4IWrdqGH4&feature=plcp

    23 Anita MADSEN DEN 32.79 16.05 17.74 4.54 4.14 4.50 4.50 4.50 1.00 #27
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3K492d8fg&feature=plcp

    24 Pina UMEK SLO 32.71 18.92 14.79 3.89 3.43 3.64 3.82 3.71 1.00 #17
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ4R-q1Kh9U&feature=plcp

    25 Aislin ROSADO MEX 32.28 16.48 15.80 4.00 3.68 3.96 4.04 4.07 0.00 #22
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vibr4Dqx4wk&feature=plcp

    26 Netta SCHREIBER ISR 31.13 15.48 16.65 4.18 3.93 4.18 4.21 4.32 1.00 #23
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo8qtxG_SV8&feature=plcp

    27 Melisa Sema ATIK TUR 29.13 14.45 15.68 4.00 3.68 3.96 3.93 4.04 1.00 #9
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQvRCeP283M&feature=plcp[/QUOTE]

    28 Oliya CLARKSON GRN 27.75 14.15 15.60 3.96 3.64 3.86 3.96 4.07 2.00 #15
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkzvgSUw7F8&feature=plcp

    29 Ecem ERTENLI TUR 26.76 15.17 12.59 3.25 2.93 3.21 3.18 3.18 1.00 #16
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShOC66qK_oo&feature=plcp

    30 Zselyke KENEZ ROU 21.32 8.40 12.92 3.07 2.96 3.29 3.36 3.46 0.00 #25
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssZMeDAdLQ&feature=plcp
    Last edited by dorispulaski; 09-20-2012 at 10:29 AM.

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    Protocols http://www.isuresults.com/results/jg..._SP_Scores.pdf

    Yes, Miyahara's deduction - time violation. Plus underrotated 3T in combo.
    Spin 1 level, I believed - Base level.
    Her very low PCS I don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    I'm very happy with So Youn Park's placing.
    One may be happy of her placing only after FS. She is bad in FS so often ...

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    Yes, she did not have a good FS at her last outing for sure. I hope she will have a better outing this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    Yes, she did not have a good FS at her last outing for sure. I hope she will have a better outing this time.
    Not only last. Asian summer games and YOG too. Places were about the same, scores were low.

    Yes, I also hope that her FS will become good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Protocols http://www.isuresults.com/results/jg..._SP_Scores.pdf

    Yes, Miyahara's deduction - time violation. Plus underrotated 3T in combo.
    Spin 1 level, I believed - Base level.
    Her very low PCS I don't understand.
    not only just level 1 for that spin but also minus GEO. She got only one point for that spin!
    AND I think her lower PCS are OK. Compared to her first outing where she was a nobody she was clearly under pressure this time which resulted in slower skating and after the mishap in the spin the sparkle of the perfomance was totaly gone away. So good juding in my opinion. The skaters should not get the same PCS because if they don´t perfome the same!

    Great to see that Park won with an easyer Combination. Her quality just was so good! If you look at the scores her basic tchnical points are below the 3-3 jumpers bit with her positiv GEO she beat the 3-3 jumpers today because they all had little errros.
    AND don´t forget: Kaiser did not only get minus for her edge call in flip but also becaus the jump WAS NOT OUT of steps imidiatly. It should be -3 from all the judges!

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    Quote Originally Posted by euroskate View Post
    Great to see that Park won with an easyer Combination. Her quality just was so good! If you look at the scores her basic tchnical points are below the 3-3 jumpers bit with her positiv GEO she beat the 3-3 jumpers today because they all had little errros.
    Park landed 3S+3T at Asian Trophy 2012 (August) in SP with positive GOE.

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    After watching the top 6, I think the judges got them in the right order. Park was lovely and as someone above said, the whole package. Titushkina looked competent but slow and the program put me to sleep, Keiser speedier and sparkier but a little sloppy. I like Oba because she looks like a young woman out there, not a little kid. Liinamae has some interesting qualities but this program was frantic to the point of being sloppy, and Miyahara skates through her music, didn't really gel as a program for me. But I am a little on her PCS, she looked better than that to me.

    Watching these ladies' styles and their music selections, I got the feeling that most of them (Park excepted) just got it wrong for their budding natural style. I know it's early in the season and programs haven't gelled yet, but I kept wanting to take X's music and have Y skate to it instead! I don't think it's only a choreography issue.

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